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Not looking forward to this. Unanimously disliked by all work groups.

2020 can’t end soon enough

Business as usual. I can't think of a single CEO that the work groups admired. With KH and JB at the helm and now this, may God help us all.

I see what you did there!;)

Not “confidence” invoking at all especially with all going on!

So is the big “recall to fly empty airplanes and furlough in the fall” plan Ben’s masterpiece helped by lil Shane.

Is this the plan?

Aren't most people going to have had the vaccine by then and the economy progressively opened?

BM is way more outgoing and willing to think outside the box vs Brad.... does he want to pay us millions of dollars of course not. I think he’s good for the company but good for the employees? Who knows...

The “F” threat will no doubt come down the pipeline when a TA gets shoved down our throats this Spring. Remember the time to negotiate is now! 🙄

When was the last time you were drug tested?

Maybe. But I'd suggest calling their bluff, or even taking a few furloughs for a while if that's necessary to lock in some improvements. AS may be in a better recovery position than the rest, certainly looks to be among the leaders...

https://seekingalpha.com/article/440...erent-outcomes

Can’t read that article without a membership/subscription

Worked for me, no subscription. Might have to turn adblock off? It's a good article.

It blocked me the first time but I reloaded and pressed x before the pop up loaded.

I would take this one and add some color but I have been ridiculed too many time by the village idiots. I am clueless after all, newguy- take it away!

I’m simply curious. By Fall, Fauci and other experts are saying we can be at a level of normalcy with a major portion of the population vaccinated. Are you guys saying that is when we start to furlough? Nearing the 2 year mark of Covid?

Come on OTZ...Never one to hold back nor miss the mark. No need to start worryin about the village people idiots

To be fair, furloughs were prevented because we had over 1,000 pilots take EIL (and EO). I'm curious to hear their perspective. We shouldn't silence each others' voices on here.

By Fall most experts are predicting a return to normalcy that won't be entirely 2019 but at least things/places will be open that allows much more commerce and travel. And Fall would mark almost 2 years since Covid19 started. At that point once the vaccines are pretty much taken by anyone who wanted to, why would the wheels come off the wagon?

Your forecast assumes a return to some form of normalcy at least in terms of passenger numbers at Alaska, and maybe that happens. It’s also possible that what we have seen in the past in terms of passenger numbers doesn’t return, in that case there will be furloughs, there might not be a thousand but I think several hundred at least are still very possible.
I haven’t seen any improvement in loads at all since the middle seats became available nor would I expect to have, none of the flights I’ve seen were even close to capacity with the seats that were available.

Could be, fly them empty until you secure the gate space in Seattle, then if things don’t improve furlough.

Might be wrong but I think our gate space is based on people, not equip through SEA.

I thought so as well, but that I thought that recent email said that policy was changing.

That would make sense, if SEA wants to retain frequency. Nobodies loads will be at 2019 levels for a while.

Hey, for all we know this is highly seasonal. It may just piddle out in a couple months altogether, lots of people won’t bother to get vaccinated, then it comes back with a vengeance next fall.

Could be that all the hoops the Aussies have been jumping through in an effort to keep numbers down didn’t really matter because it’s summertime down under and it’s a Fall and early winter bug.

When you only have a one year track record on this particular bug, there is still a lot you don’t know about it.

Only time will tell.

It’s based on total seats supplied in SEA Q2-Q3, 2021.

It may suck for all the EIL people getting called back early but the Port of Seattle is the closest thing the pilots have to Scope protection. Too bad our other hubs didn't have similarly clueless administrators; if they did we'd probably be hiring again.

Forgive my ignorance but does this gate allocation at the POS occur every year? Or is it something that happens less frequently?

Traditionally, number of seats flown in the month of August, is used for gate allocation in SEA.

This is a recall of 208 pilot for the March 6th date. There are people that were recalled on January 31 that haven't received a training date yet. It will be interesting to see how the training goes to get the 208 pilots retrained and back on the line. My assumption is that after this recall, it might be to the next bid until the next round of EIL recalls. Thoughts?

Just finished a three day trip, all legs were flown on aircraft with 178 seats

Loads:

Leg 1: 55
Leg 2: 112
Leg 3: 43
Leg 4: 15
Leg 5: 40
Leg 6: 33

flown two flights in the last month with over 100, good thing we are bringing all these people back off their EILs. 🙄

We all knew Jan was going to very bad and probably Feb too. Curious as to how bookings look for summer/fall.

Also consider this...

https://www.cfodive.com/news/Scott-H...covery/593924/

"For Spirit Airlines' CFO, it all comes back to math"

Asking pilots to do math... funniest thing I have heard all day.


4 ex wives, plus six green slips, minus 2 horses = they should have called back pilots sooner... I mean later...

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I don't think their CFO is a pilot, I assume he's an accountant with an MBA :confused:

That was the point! You posted that article in response to someone that was questioning why Alaska is bringing pilots back early from EILs when the planes aren't full.

My last 5 flights have been packed.

Flew 4 SJC-GDL-SJC trips in Feb, close to 100 people going down each leg and over 100 coming back each time.. one leg back had 160 people. Good thing we're cancelling that route for the next 3 months.

I flew some California trips. San Diego, San Jose etc loads were from the high twenties to low fifties aboard a 900ER

The PHX turns were full aboard a 900ER.


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Anyone else have any isolated, purely anecdotal, evidence of absolutely nothing at all that they'd like to share?

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