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Hey guys. I was taxiing around in SFO the other evening and noticed every Alaska gate in the Alaska terminal was occupied by a 175. It seems since the start of the pandemic every carrier that contracts out flying has favored utilizing RJs compared to mainline to the extent that they're allowed per scope; however, I've noticed this trend more on the Alaska side vs. other airlines. I do not work for Alaska, so I'm not up to speed on your scope and various limits on mainline to RJ block hour ratios, but am wondering if this is becoming an issue on the Alaska side of things?

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Alaska doesn’t have any scope

In Feb 2009 Brad Tilden promised us that the E175/195 would never be operated for Alaska Airlines because it did not fit our business model. He went on to say that markets that other airlines were using it on we already cover with the 737-700. He said that the 737-700 had significant cost advantage over the 175/195 and that it was a “terrific aircraft” for both short haul and long thin flying. We have outsourced to Horizon Air and to Skywest approx 70 of the 175’s with at least 100 planned. And the 737-700 is now a freighter with a couple of orphans still hauling passengers....He told us that negotiating scope for an aircraft that was never coming was a waste of negotiating capital and we should use it for something else........

And that is precisely why scope is more important than pay scales.

Job security.

You know what, you get what you deserve! Why is Horizon even a separate ACMI? Should all be one airline.

No, you get what you negotiate. And Alaska pilots for whatever obscenely short-sighted reason never chose to purchase that career insurance.

Because Horizon Air Industries is not Alaska Airlines Inc. any more than Skywest Airlines is Alaska Airlines. One happens for now to be owned by Alaska Air Group and is 100% contracted to provide lift and the other has a contract with Alaska AirGroup to provide lift. Because Horizon has always been a commuter/regional airline and the owners of Horizon Air Industries want it to be that way. Beyond that there is no mechanism to merge a regional airline into a major airline. Trust me that Alaska Airlines does not want to pay 266.00 an hour for E175 captains.

Yes. And AS ALPA does not want to do an SLI with QX. They would rather COMAIR them first, for good reason.

There is no interest on anyones part...Have to formally acquire them just to trigger the ball in motion. There is no interest on the part of Alaska pilots to do what Jetblue did with the 190/220 and pay scales. We have one rate for 90 seats to 200 seats and the only rate adjust would be up for a larger more capable airplane. There is just no way to merge equitably