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09-04-2021, 08:19 AM
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It’s pretty good overall. A few of the old guard guys that were negative learning experts retired.
I generally enjoy going to training. You have to study and know your call outs cold but that is standard for any airline.
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I generally enjoy going to training. You have to study and know your call outs cold but that is standard for any airline.
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09-04-2021, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by NewGuy01
It’s pretty good overall. A few of the old guard guys that were negative learning experts retired.
I generally enjoy going to training. You have to study and know your call outs cold but that is standard for any airline.
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I generally enjoy going to training. You have to study and know your call outs cold but that is standard for any airline.
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09-04-2021, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by starkutt1
that’s good to hear , Is the training program AQP ? How long is the training footprint ?
Initial training is AQP. I was hired in April and I finished around June ish. I was done with OE by July…
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09-04-2021, 08:54 AM
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Boeing is AQP. Initial typically just over 90 days to complete. Come back after 6 months on line for first CQ round, then every 12 months.
Airbus is not AQP. Training about the same but it’s the old PC/PT cycle.
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Airbus is not AQP. Training about the same but it’s the old PC/PT cycle.
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09-04-2021, 05:05 PM
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The Airbus training was more difficult than the Boeing training was, but certainly nothing too strenuous.
Boeing is all AQP, so you have specific “gates” that you can focus on, whereas the Airbus isn’t so you’re studying for the oral as well as practicing call outs/flows at the same time. Not that hard, but it was certainly a huge benefit during 737 training to be done with the “oral” (multiple choice test) and to solely focus on procedures and then sim.
Airbus training has you bouncing around as well. We started in SEA for indoc, went to SFO for systems/procedures and then MIA for sim. For Boeing training, I stayed in SEA the whole time. Much easier to plan trips home that way.
As others have said, training is great here. All my instructors (Airbus and Boeing) were fantastic and the company really bends over backwards to give you the support you need. They aren’t here to wash anyone out, they really do want to see everyone succeed.
Boeing is all AQP, so you have specific “gates” that you can focus on, whereas the Airbus isn’t so you’re studying for the oral as well as practicing call outs/flows at the same time. Not that hard, but it was certainly a huge benefit during 737 training to be done with the “oral” (multiple choice test) and to solely focus on procedures and then sim.
Airbus training has you bouncing around as well. We started in SEA for indoc, went to SFO for systems/procedures and then MIA for sim. For Boeing training, I stayed in SEA the whole time. Much easier to plan trips home that way.
As others have said, training is great here. All my instructors (Airbus and Boeing) were fantastic and the company really bends over backwards to give you the support you need. They aren’t here to wash anyone out, they really do want to see everyone succeed.
09-04-2021, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by rmcbear08
The Airbus training was more difficult than the Boeing training was, but certainly nothing too strenuous.
Boeing is all AQP, so you have specific “gates” that you can focus on, whereas the Airbus isn’t so you’re studying for the oral as well as practicing call outs/flows at the same time. Not that hard, but it was certainly a huge benefit during 737 training to be done with the “oral” (multiple choice test) and to solely focus on procedures and then sim.
Airbus training has you bouncing around as well. We started in SEA for indoc, went to SFO for systems/procedures and then MIA for sim. For Boeing training, I stayed in SEA the whole time. Much easier to plan trips home that way.
As others have said, training is great here. All my instructors (Airbus and Boeing) were fantastic and the company really bends over backwards to give you the support you need. They aren’t here to wash anyone out, they really do want to see everyone succeed.
Boeing is all AQP, so you have specific “gates” that you can focus on, whereas the Airbus isn’t so you’re studying for the oral as well as practicing call outs/flows at the same time. Not that hard, but it was certainly a huge benefit during 737 training to be done with the “oral” (multiple choice test) and to solely focus on procedures and then sim.
Airbus training has you bouncing around as well. We started in SEA for indoc, went to SFO for systems/procedures and then MIA for sim. For Boeing training, I stayed in SEA the whole time. Much easier to plan trips home that way.
As others have said, training is great here. All my instructors (Airbus and Boeing) were fantastic and the company really bends over backwards to give you the support you need. They aren’t here to wash anyone out, they really do want to see everyone succeed.
09-05-2021, 09:16 AM
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I just went through 737 transition training and it was incredibly laid back and a good experience. All of the instructors were easy going, practical and easy to get along with. Tons of experience in the training department. Time frame from first day to LOE was ~7 weeks.
09-06-2021, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearswnger
Once out of training, can you move reserve days pretty easy to do like 6 in a row?
My experience was that there was almost zero flexibility for trading things around on reserve. That was 2018 however…
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