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Originally Posted by Minepza
(Post 3501557)
Pilots never learn not to take the first offer. Look at Mesa, they actually rejected it and got a way better offer within days.
You convinced me. Shamed me into thinking if don’t vote no, I’m an idiot…. Because of a no vote at Mesa….. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 |
In our current contract it takes 21 vacation days to not have to bid for the month and the TA now has it as 18 vacation days. I’m not suggesting either vote but that is a nice addition that isn’t widely published.
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
(Post 3501398)
The former Alaska pilots I have talked to told me they came to United because of far greater flying opportunity because of WB airplanes. It would make sense that Alaska needs to pay a Premium over other majors NB rates, or else pilots will keep leaving or just not apply when you can make the same at United, Delta etc and also have the choice of flying a WB and making higher rates and much easier flying.
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Originally Posted by Benito
(Post 3500911)
To prevent the Alaska pilot from becoming the scourge of the industry I hope this TA receives an overwhelming NO vote. The industry is waiting for the first TA of this era to be ratified and if this TA is ratified the Alaska pilots will be responsible for dragging down the entire industry. I implore all the airline pilots from all the other airlines that are in or about to enter contract negotiations to tell their NC's and MEC's to not even think about bringing a TA like this to them.
I understand why the Alaska pilot may be compelled to vote yes but you must fight the Stockholm Syndrome and years of beatings. You are airline pilots at a 90 year old major legacy US airline, start demanding to be treated like an airline pilot at a 90 year old major legacy US airline and stop acting like a frightened, beaten housewife. |
Originally Posted by Minepza
(Post 3501557)
Pilots never learn not to take the first offer. Look at Mesa, they actually rejected it and got a way better offer within days.
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
(Post 3501741)
Hands down, the dumbest thing I have read on APC ever. These guys put everything they had into this TA… These are not OK guys, they are as good of people is you could find in any industry, we didn’t deserve everything they did for all of us…. Have you ever heard of gratitude…. Nope the angry 30 only know hate and bitterness, they are too dumb to realize they are the minority, they will quickly buy bag tags that say, “I voted NO”… 🙄🤭😂
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3501748)
Because they were literally going to be out of business if all their CA's left. AS doesn't quite have the same problem.
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Originally Posted by Pilotsoup55
(Post 3501753)
Not yet…..
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If you’re an outsider, you need to listen to the podcasts on Spotify or hit up alaskapilots.org it’s got what you need. Just my guess, the most vocal, and senior folk don’t need QOL, they have seniority. So most just wanna pad their W2’s and retirements before screwing us junior kids one more time. I doubt most legacy folk would know a good deal if they had one stuck in their ass. Guess it needs to be written in braille for them to understand.
I think there’s a 10-20% raise in work rules alone, and while inflation might wreck your purchasing power, it can’t ruin the scope and the major QOL gains. The 1400 start for reserve is six 1/2 days off if you play your cards right, and the vacation re-write in PBS is sick AF. We’re gonna look mighty stupid taking this back to the mediator when the company gave us 90% of EXACTLY what we asked for. We still need a full language TA - just my humble opinion. |
If you’re an outsider, you need to listen to the podcasts on Spotify or hit up alaskapilots.org it’s got what you need. Just my guess, the most vocal, and senior folk don’t need QOL, they have seniority. So most just wanna pad their W2’s and retirements before screwing us junior kids one more time. I doubt most legacy folk would know a good deal if they had one stuck in their ass. Guess it needs to be written in braille for them to understand.
I think there’s a 10-20% raise in work rules alone, and while inflation might wreck your purchasing power, it can’t ruin the scope and the major QOL gains. The 1400 start for reserve is six 1/2 days off if you play your cards right, and the vacation re-write in PBS is sick AF. We’re gonna look mighty stupid taking this back to the mediator when the company gave us 90% of EXACTLY what we asked for. We still need a full language TA - just my humble opinion. |
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