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Flaps1check 10-19-2022 11:47 AM

Airbus
 
Anyone notice that there are 98 estimated lines on the system bid for March LAX Airbus? Can someone explain the math on how 10 321s can produce 98 lines?

THE SHAFT 10-19-2022 12:27 PM

Maybe they will be ultra efficient with the frames.

18 hours flying a day x 30 days x 10 frames = 5,400 block hours. Divide that by 75 (min guarantee) you get 72 hard lines. Add in the fluff of vacation and training and maybe that’s how they arrived at those estimated bid blocks. Wish I was still on it I would park myself on reserve and not work.

OTZeagle1 10-19-2022 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by THE SHAFT (Post 3516130)
Maybe they will be ultra efficient with the frames.

18 hours flying a day x 30 days x 10 frames = 5,400 block hours. Divide that by 75 (min guarantee) you get 72 hard lines. Add in the fluff of vacation and training and maybe that’s how they arrived at those estimated bid blocks. Wish I was still on it I would park myself on reserve and not work.

Sounds like a reasonable chance we just might be placing an order for 20 more 321’s 😉

rballan 10-19-2022 01:03 PM

I think an order for 20 + 30 options would make sense. That, plus the existing 10, would replace the planned 60 MAX 10s that may never show up.

Cheers - Rob.

OTZeagle1 10-19-2022 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by rballan (Post 3516144)
I think an order for 20 + 30 options would make sense. That, plus the existing 10, would replace the planned 60 MAX 10s that may never show up.

Cheers - Rob.

The ones we are interested in have a pretty girl painted on the tail

rballan 10-19-2022 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3516156)
The ones we are interested in have a pretty girl painted on the tail

Works for me. Anything that keeps and adds 321NEOs.

Cheers - Rob.

P.S. I think Hawaiian has 18 (w/ Pratt engines).

Twr199 10-19-2022 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3516156)
The ones we are interested in have a pretty girl painted on the tail

United has a pretty girl on the tail? Why would anyone be interested when Southwest is buying AS. Is the 321 order part of the the AA merger? Or was it the JetBlue acquisition you said was happening? Help us out with the future!

ShyGuy 10-19-2022 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Flaps1check (Post 3516105)
Anyone notice that there are 98 estimated lines on the system bid for March LAX Airbus? Can someone explain the math on how 10 321s can produce 98 lines?

For the Oct 1 bid, estimate lines for LAX 737 CA was 152.


Actual? 118.


First time this year I ended up back on reserve. I take those estimate lines of flying with a fairly decent grain of salt.

OTZeagle1 10-19-2022 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3516207)
For the Oct 1 bid, estimate lines for LAX 737 CA was 152.


Actual? 118.


First time this year I ended up back on reserve. I take those estimate lines of flying with a fairly decent grain of salt.


128+ 17 OF = 145 Planned Nov 1st 2022= 146 🤷‍♂️

LAX 320 lines will likely be 80- 85 lines + 5-7 OF lines

ShyGuy 10-19-2022 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3516223)
118+17 OF = 135 Planned Nov 1st 2022= 146 🤷‍♂️

Correct, and the Nov bid award estimated 146 bid blocks and actual was 128 lines + 17 OF = 145 so the reality for November was pretty accurate.


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