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DenainaPilot 02-01-2023 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by Flyfast10 (Post 3582932)
How long has it been taking for everyone to clear the background check. I have been monitoring mine and they are waiting for my FAA file. I don’t know how long this takes for the FAA to process. Just wondering how long everyone else has taken to get the all clear?

Maybe I was just being impatient, but it felt like mine took forever.

Backcountry208 02-04-2023 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by Flyfast10 (Post 3582932)
How long has it been taking for everyone to clear the background check. I have been monitoring mine and they are waiting for my FAA file. I don’t know how long this takes for the FAA to process. Just wondering how long everyone else has taken to get the all clear?

A couple of weeks. I was told it can take up to 4-6 weeks.

EricA320757 02-05-2023 01:27 PM

What is the current timeframe between CJO and class date?

MedStudent2021 02-06-2023 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by EricA320757 (Post 3586527)
What is the current timeframe between CJO and class date?

Mine was about 3 months. I interviewed in January and my class date is in April.

9mikemike 02-06-2023 10:59 AM

New tidbit out of another “ how do we stop attrition” meeting. Pushing all job offers out in to the 90-120 day timeframe . Theory is that most pilots shopping job offers will take the class date at a major. Realization that competing against the major players is too costly. They want to collect data on what the majors are doing in that regard and bump the Alaska timeframe outside of that…Almost logical, Almost

FreqFlyer 02-06-2023 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by 9mikemike (Post 3587180)
New tidbit out of another “ how do we stop attrition” meeting. Pushing all job offers out in to the 90-120 day timeframe . Theory is that most pilots shopping job offers will take the class date at a major. Realization that competing against the major players is too costly. They want to collect data on what the majors are doing in that regard and bump the Alaska timeframe outside of that…Almost logical, Almost

Day drinking again I see?

echelon 02-06-2023 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by 9mikemike (Post 3587180)
New tidbit out of another “ how do we stop attrition” meeting. Pushing all job offers out in to the 90-120 day timeframe . Theory is that most pilots shopping job offers will take the class date at a major. Realization that competing against the major players is too costly. They want to collect data on what the majors are doing in that regard and bump the Alaska timeframe outside of that…Almost logical, Almost

So their approach isn't to try to stop the attrition, or even to attract more pilots... They're strategy is to actually TRY to get people to go elsewhere? 😂 Amazing

C340 02-06-2023 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by 9mikemike (Post 3587180)
New tidbit out of another “ how do we stop attrition” meeting. Pushing all job offers out in to the 90-120 day timeframe . Theory is that most pilots shopping job offers will take the class date at a major. Realization that competing against the major players is too costly. They want to collect data on what the majors are doing in that regard and bump the Alaska timeframe outside of that…Almost logical, Almost

Tell me this is made up. Please.

KnockKnock 02-06-2023 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by 9mikemike (Post 3587180)
New tidbit out of another “ how do we stop attrition” meeting. Pushing all job offers out in to the 90-120 day timeframe . Theory is that most pilots shopping job offers will take the class date at a major. Realization that competing against the major players is too costly. They want to collect data on what the majors are doing in that regard and bump the Alaska timeframe outside of that…Almost logical, Almost

So they're wanting to see which applicants have other offers and end up bailing within the 90-120 day waiting period? Thereby filtering out the unfortunate few that don't have multiple offers. They're assuming, those willing to wait are not, "competitive or desirable enough", for the other airlines to hire. At which point they offer them a CJO with the assumption that these applicants don't have a better option and will stick around for a while......?
Awesome, nothing but blue skies ahead for AS....

Troy T 02-06-2023 01:55 PM

Hello.

Can anyone clarify the initial phone interview? Is it simply a review of basic background information or are there any "surprises" to be aware of?

Thanks.

Akcfiguy 02-06-2023 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by 9mikemike (Post 3587180)
New tidbit out of another “ how do we stop attrition” meeting. Pushing all job offers out in to the 90-120 day timeframe . Theory is that most pilots shopping job offers will take the class date at a major. Realization that competing against the major players is too costly. They want to collect data on what the majors are doing in that regard and bump the Alaska timeframe outside of that…Almost logical, Almost

Any other news from this meeting?

FL410 02-06-2023 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by 9mikemike (Post 3587180)
New tidbit out of another “ how do we stop attrition” meeting. Pushing all job offers out in to the 90-120 day timeframe . Theory is that most pilots shopping job offers will take the class date at a major. Realization that competing against the major players is too costly. They want to collect data on what the majors are doing in that regard and bump the Alaska timeframe outside of that…Almost logical, Almost

This place never fails to a amaze me but this can't be true. Sadly, it could be a I sure hope not.

FreqFlyer 02-06-2023 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by FL410 (Post 3587368)
This place never fails to a amaze me but this can't be true. Sadly, it could be a I sure hope not.

Just more false allegations from the doomsayers.

echelon 02-06-2023 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by FreqFlyer (Post 3587400)
Just more false allegations from the doomsayers.

And after all, who would know better than a guy not even halfway through probation amirite

FreqFlyer 02-06-2023 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by echelon (Post 3587436)
And after all, who would know better than a guy not even halfway through probation amirite

Couldn’t be more wrong actually.

KnockKnock 02-06-2023 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by FreqFlyer (Post 3587400)
Just more false allegations from the doomsayers.

The information could very well be incorrect or overstated, but do you have any kind of proof that it is? Until then, you're spouting "false allegations".

DenainaPilot 02-06-2023 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by KnockKnock (Post 3587456)
The information could very well be incorrect or overstated, but do you have any kind of proof that it is? Until then, you're spouting "false allegations".

By this logic we should believe everything otz says :rolleyes:.

KnockKnock 02-06-2023 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by DenainaPilot (Post 3587515)
By this logic we should believe everything otz says :rolleyes:.

I see your point, and as I said, this information could be incorrect or overstated but until you prove otherwise, stating it's a false allegation, is to perpetuate the claim. Otz gets called out because Otz, gets/has been, PROVEN wrong, time after time. He is verifiably wrong. Unfortunately, there seems to be a number of people on here that do believe everything he says. Some even seek his, "wisdom"...

av8trup2late 02-06-2023 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by FreqFlyer (Post 3587439)
Couldn’t be more wrong actually.

Just stop. Your incessant marketing for management is so embarrassing. You're like spam callers selling car warranties. Tell the company to hire someone who's less obvious. Have some self respect man.

C340 02-06-2023 11:21 PM

I attended the PDX MTC event, and got the recommendation from that. I also got an internal recommendation, and I meet nearly all of their preferred requirements, including 1500 hours of jet time. I applied two days ago, after completing my ATP written, and my app says under review. All that to say, I'm optimistic.

I have a possible opportunity to go travel abroad with my brother for 9 days at the beginning of March. However, I want to give priority to an interview here, if I get one. Assuming Alaska wants to interview me, does anyone know the likelihood of interviews for someone in my position taking place within the first 10 days of March? I imagine they choose to interview in batches. When they call to schedule an interview, do they give a number of dates to choose from, and if you can't make those dates, you lose the opportunity or are pushed until the next interview cycle? Does anyone know if the currently scheduled interviews are occurring before early March? Am I being too optimistic thinking that I could be interviewing as early as the first week or two of March?

Just trying to find the balance between continuing to live life/taking opportunities when they come vs putting my life on hold and prioritizing getting hired ASAP over everything else for seniority's sake. Thanks for any and all input.

DenainaPilot 02-06-2023 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by KnockKnock (Post 3587556)
I see your point, and as I said, this information could be incorrect or overstated but until you prove otherwise, stating it's a false allegation, is to perpetuate the claim. Otz gets called out because Otz, gets/has been, PROVEN wrong, time after time. He is verifiably wrong. Unfortunately, there seems to be a number of people on here that do believe everything he says. Some even seek his, "wisdom"...

It’s an anonymous forum, for pilots no less, I treat most information with a giant grain of salt unless corroborated. I’m certainly not arguing against your second point.

As far as lead times for interviews goes C340 it’s anyone’s guess. A friend had a meeting with a CP and got the phone call to schedule an interview about a week later. Unfortunately he had training scheduled so he hasn’t been able to interview yet.

flysnoopy76 02-07-2023 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by C340 (Post 3587611)
I attended the PDX MTC event, and got the recommendation from that. I also got an internal recommendation, and I meet nearly all of their preferred requirements, including 1500 hours of jet time. I applied two days ago, after completing my ATP written, and my app says under review. All that to say, I'm optimistic.

I have a possible opportunity to go travel abroad with my brother for 9 days at the beginning of March. However, I want to give priority to an interview here, if I get one. Assuming Alaska wants to interview me, does anyone know the likelihood of interviews for someone in my position taking place within the first 10 days of March? I imagine they choose to interview in batches. When they call to schedule an interview, do they give a number of dates to choose from, and if you can't make those dates, you lose the opportunity or are pushed until the next interview cycle? Does anyone know if the currently scheduled interviews are occurring before early March? Am I being too optimistic thinking that I could be interviewing as early as the first week or two of March?

Just trying to find the balance between continuing to live life/taking opportunities when they come vs putting my life on hold and prioritizing getting hired ASAP over everything else for seniority's sake. Thanks for any and all input.

Some people wait a week for a call, others for months, I wouldn’t be changing my life plans around on the chance to interview at Alaska Airlines.

FreqFlyer 02-07-2023 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by C340 (Post 3587611)
I attended the PDX MTC event, and got the recommendation from that. I also got an internal recommendation, and I meet nearly all of their preferred requirements, including 1500 hours of jet time. I applied two days ago, after completing my ATP written, and my app says under review. All that to say, I'm optimistic.

I have a possible opportunity to go travel abroad with my brother for 9 days at the beginning of March. However, I want to give priority to an interview here, if I get one. Assuming Alaska wants to interview me, does anyone know the likelihood of interviews for someone in my position taking place within the first 10 days of March? I imagine they choose to interview in batches. When they call to schedule an interview, do they give a number of dates to choose from, and if you can't make those dates, you lose the opportunity or are pushed until the next interview cycle? Does anyone know if the currently scheduled interviews are occurring before early March? Am I being too optimistic thinking that I could be interviewing as early as the first week or two of March?

Just trying to find the balance between continuing to live life/taking opportunities when they come vs putting my life on hold and prioritizing getting hired ASAP over everything else for seniority's sake. Thanks for any and all input.

Dude that sounds like a once in a lifetime opportunity. Personally I’d go, and if Alaska does call for an interview and you can’t select a day around it, just be honest and tell them. Nobody will fault you. and I guarantee they will give you some interview dates around your trip. It’s not like you’re leaving for 9 months, it’s just 9 days…

rickair7777 02-07-2023 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by flysnoopy76 (Post 3587701)
Some people wait a week for a call, others for months, I wouldn’t be changing my life plans around on the chance to interview at Alaska Airlines.

Yeah, I'm sure they'd let you take a later interview if you have a significant family commitment (you don't need to share the details with them).

ImperialxRat 02-07-2023 11:04 AM

I agree with the others.. absolutely take the trip, and if called for an interview just let them know that you have an international trip planned over those days. Normally I would say it’s none of their business, and to just say that you have a prior obligation, however in this environment they make take that to mean that you have a different interview scheduled for those days.

Our candidate pool is not huge, and you meet all of the criteria, which means Alaska wants you. Take the trip, and schedule the interview either before or after the trip. Good luck!

C340 02-07-2023 11:08 AM

Thanks so much for the feedback everyone!

9mikemike 02-07-2023 11:16 AM

Take the trip brother. If at the end of the trip you still want to interview at Alaska then it will happen. Just let them know that April is your soonest availability. Attrition is still high enough that you will get called

Troy T 02-07-2023 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by Troy T (Post 3587328)
Hello.

Can anyone clarify the initial phone interview? Is it simply a review of basic background information or are there any "surprises" to be aware of?

Thanks.

Again, can anyone clarify?

mrfishy 02-07-2023 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Troy T (Post 3587978)
Again, can anyone clarify?

Basic background information

HostileCombover 02-07-2023 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by Troy T (Post 3587978)
Again, can anyone clarify?

“Why Alaska?”
Any failures or things you failed to disclose?
A brief review of hours and history, if I recall.

Basically, be personable and someone they enjoy talking to. It’s a low threat event unless you come across as a d-bag.

SoulfulCleric2 02-07-2023 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by Troy T (Post 3587978)
Again, can anyone clarify?

Until recently the phone screen involved some version of a diversity question. Doesn't hurt to prep a response since you're still getting one at the interview.

Mine was
- Resume review - Be ready to talk through the highlights of your flying career
- "Why Alaska?"
- "Any questions for me?"
- Schedule the interview.

Troy T 02-08-2023 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by SoulfulCleric2 (Post 3588247)
Until recently the phone screen involved some version of a diversity question. Doesn't hurt to prep a response since you're still getting one at the interview.

Mine was
- Resume review - Be ready to talk through the highlights of your flying career
- "Why Alaska?"
- "Any questions for me?"
- Schedule the interview.

Perfect! Thank you, Gentlemen.

Mudhen200 02-08-2023 07:34 AM

What is a “diversity question”? I honestly have no idea. I’ve never heard of such a thing in an interview.
My generation had to survive a sim ride from the pits of hell with “The Gravedigger”. Todays generation gets asked a question about diversity? What are they going to ask?

C340 02-08-2023 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Mudhen200 (Post 3588440)
What is a “diversity question”? I honestly have no idea. I’ve never heard of such a thing in an interview.
My generation had to survive a sim ride from the pits of hell with “The Gravedigger”. Todays generation gets asked a question about diversity? What are they going to ask?

I feel like I’d probably do better chilling with Gravedigger. I’m a white male who grew up in Southern Oregon. What’s a diversity?

antislamclick 02-20-2023 04:11 PM

Does anyone have info on recent class drops? And does bidding occur in the first few days of indoc?

DenainaPilot 02-20-2023 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by antislamclick (Post 3595282)
Does anyone have info on recent class drops? And does bidding occur in the first few days of indoc?

I believe you bid one day one and get the results the next. I’d expect SEA or SFO to start off.

antislamclick 02-21-2023 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by DenainaPilot (Post 3595437)
I believe you bid one day one and get the results the next. I’d expect SEA or SFO to start off.

Answers my next question, appreciate it!

Akcfiguy 02-24-2023 10:34 AM

What is the wait looking like between CJO & class? 3 months?

widebodywannabe 02-24-2023 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Akcfiguy (Post 3597390)
What is the wait looking like between CJO & class? 3 months?

3 weeks to 5 months

Flyfast10 02-25-2023 02:18 PM

Anyone offered a CJO in January receive a class date?


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