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88002 01-31-2023 08:44 AM

CO telling CA's to keep MCD door open
 
So in SEA, during Deice days, Ops or SOC has been telling pilots to keep the MCD open.

Of course, this means none of the crew gets paid except for the FA's after a rumored number of minutes.

What is yall's thoughts on all of this? Some CAs tell me that since the deice checklist requires MCD closed, they won't say they're ready until the door is closed...and if they won't close it up, then CA's will just deplane the plane back into the gate.

Thoughts?

rickair7777 01-31-2023 08:48 AM

They're doing it to avoid starting the DOT delay clock.

If they want you to actually deice with the MCD open... Type-I, Fully Body, gotta shut the door for that.

88002 01-31-2023 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3583031)
They're doing it to avoid starting the DOT delay clock.

If they want you to actually deice with the MCD open... Type-I, Fully Body, gotta shut the door for that.

What would you do? Would you insist on closing up, at least gets your FA's paid? It seems skirting the DOT clock is gonna bite em somewhere else.
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hercretired 01-31-2023 09:09 AM

I would think an ASAP report or email to safety team might bring some common sense to this

WHACKMASTER 01-31-2023 10:27 AM

What’s an MCD?

Avroman 01-31-2023 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 3583116)
What’s an MCD?

Main Cabin Door I'd guess.

ShyGuy 01-31-2023 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by 88002 (Post 3583025)
So in SEA, during Deice days, Ops or SOC has been telling pilots to keep the MCD open.

Of course, this means none of the crew gets paid except for the FA's after a rumored number of minutes.

What is yall's thoughts on all of this? Some CAs tell me that since the deice checklist requires MCD closed, they won't say they're ready until the door is closed...and if they won't close it up, then CA's will just deplane the plane back into the gate.

Thoughts?

Read the memo/bulletin again. It says to stay at the gate and keep door open until your position / que for the deice line is known, and then close up accordingly. This is to prevent blocking out and starting DOT clock but having no where to go for de-icing. No one is forcing you to deice with the door open. If the deicers are ready for you, close up and leave.

rickair7777 01-31-2023 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3583442)
No one is forcing you to deice with the door open.

Not true in SEA. Ask around.

Again, type-I, full body.

WHACKMASTER 02-01-2023 01:22 AM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 3583120)
Main Cabin Door I'd guess.

Oh that’s right. Deice with the MCD open?! Bahahaha! That’s funny.

airb320 02-01-2023 05:43 AM

There is only 1 Captain, act accordingly, simple!
I don’t even see why this is being ask on on open forum.


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