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ShyGuy 08-23-2023 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by airb320 (Post 3687118)
I’ll definitely stick with “could care less” since it’s considered an ‘understatement’ and that is what I was going for.

However, you clearly “don’t” since you fell right into it…😉

After getting $340, are you really doing this? ;)


Time for a celebration/cheer, and then focus on early openers late 2024 / 2025.

OTZeagle1 08-23-2023 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3687063)
If you knew anything you'd know that the vbulletin platform logs admin actions, and those logs are implemented as "forums". So 15+ years of regularly doing admin duty here adds up to a lot of "posts". Better stick to your area of expertise, M&As.

Mergers are more guessing and tea leaves. If UA thought it would be approved, my guess is we would be wearing a new uniform in pretty short order. From the alignment of some tea leaves though, my personal guess is a HAL deal occurring sometime in the next 8 months. 787 magic!

rickair7777 08-23-2023 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3687158)
Mergers are more guessing and tea leaves. If UA thought it would be approved, my guess is we would be wearing a new uniform in pretty short order. From the alignment of some tea leaves though, my personal guess is a HAL deal occurring sometime in the next 8 months. 787 magic!

Serious question, how is that good for AS pilots?

airb320 08-23-2023 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3687122)
After getting $340, are you really doing this? ;)


Time for a celebration/cheer, and then focus on early openers late 2024 / 2025.

WOW, you clearly have Comprehension issues since you made nothing into ‘something’ that you must know what that might be… @?! are you even talking about!?

OTZeagle1 08-23-2023 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3687164)
Serious question, how is that good for AS pilots?

Growth… Close to 7,000 pilots by 2030

rickair7777 08-23-2023 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3687176)
Growth… Close to 7,000 pilots by 2030

Growth doesn't count for much if it comes with it's own pilots.

It would hypothetically make the company more viable in the long term if they managed it right, but the HAL niche is pretty specialized. And if they try to ditch the HAL brand, they're fooked.

9mikemike 08-23-2023 07:34 PM

And the 60-75 month fence on wide body airplanes would be good for you how…Junior capts making more than you for 5 years…Any merger that is not domestic narrow-body would be bad. Any merger would be bad

ShyGuy 08-23-2023 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by airb320 (Post 3687173)
WOW, you clearly have Comprehension issues since you made nothing into ‘something’ that you must know what that might be… @?! are you even talking about!?

I don't know what you are on about. You brought up a completely useless point that added nothing to this thread.

Arctichicken 08-23-2023 08:26 PM

Obviously, none of us on these entertainment forums are in the know even though a few claim to be so. I know, the clock is yada yada yada……..I’m bored so I’ll play. I can’t see Eskimo marrying HAL. What does HAL bring to the table? SWA is pouncing on them in their own turf. Their Asia routes are trumped by Asian airlines with superior service and product. I’ve flown on HAL a few times and I was not impressed with their product. The only thing going for them is their lower fare. Even Hawaiians don’t aupport their home airline. HAL doesn’t posses a solid balance sheet. When the economic pendulum swings, HAL will be back in the same predicament-going nowhere. So, BM and his team are going to apply Angle Lake’s special sauce and miraculously revive this zombie? I think selling is a better than buying another dead end airline just to remain being the boss. Maybe it’s time to cash out and set aside their ego. How well did the VX purchase workout for the Eskimo again?

rickair7777 08-24-2023 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Arctichicken (Post 3687283)
Obviously, none of us on these entertainment forums are in the know even though a few claim to be so. I know, the clock is yada yada yada……..I’m bored so I’ll play. I can’t see Eskimo marrying HAL. What does HAL bring to the table? SWA is pouncing on them in their own turf. Their Asia routes are trumped by Asian airlines with superior service and product. I’ve flown on HAL a few times and I was not impressed with their product. The only thing going for them is their lower fare. Even Hawaiians don’t aupport their home airline. HAL doesn’t posses a solid balance sheet. When the economic pendulum swings, HAL will be back in the same predicament-going nowhere. So, BM and his team are going to apply Angle Lake’s special sauce and miraculously revive this zombie? I think selling is a better than buying another dead end airline just to remain being the boss. Maybe it’s time to cash out and set aside their ego. How well did the VX purchase workout for the Eskimo again?

That's the crux of the issue... need to get bigger long term, but selling is very hard because of the Big Fish in the PNW Pond DNA.

Leaves them looking at very limited acquisition opportunities, with marginal business cases. VX wasn't even that, purely a defensive move to keep B6 from locking in a big west coast presence. B6 actually would have been the ideal M&A partner, but hard to hash out which management team would survive.


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