Alaska buying Hawaiian airlines.
05-22-2024, 11:25 AM
#872
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Nothing about training but The VP did say they haven't even spoke about downgrades or displacements. Sounds like the reduced lines will be around for most in the fall. I'd like to give you good news about hiring but I am not that optomistic about hiring until we hear about the Max deliveries, economy and HA deal. Just my .02. Good luck.
05-22-2024, 11:38 AM
#873
On Reserve
Joined APC: Sep 2023
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 16
My position is the merger is bad for Alaska pilots and their career progression. If the merger goes through I do not believe we will see hiring for a significant amount of time because HA is staffing for flying that is likely to evaporate rather quickly and/or get synergized into current route structures. Plus base realignments, fleet retirements, and all the thrash associated means most of us will be stalled where we are at for the foreseeable future. Combined with Boeing woes and questionable future economic demand this is a perfect storm of stagnation.
buddy at Big D, SEA based, 737 Ca, Jr. Line holder, just under 4 yrs TOS. Doubtful that kind of progression continues there or anywhere else but needless to say your prospects are better in the near to medium term at a carrier not embroiled in a merger. I regret not leaving for D when it was practical to do so. Best of luck in your future
buddy at Big D, SEA based, 737 Ca, Jr. Line holder, just under 4 yrs TOS. Doubtful that kind of progression continues there or anywhere else but needless to say your prospects are better in the near to medium term at a carrier not embroiled in a merger. I regret not leaving for D when it was practical to do so. Best of luck in your future
05-22-2024, 02:10 PM
#874
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,508
My position is the merger is bad for Alaska pilots and their career progression. If the merger goes through I do not believe we will see hiring for a significant amount of time because HA is staffing for flying that is likely to evaporate rather quickly and/or get synergized into current route structures. Plus base realignments, fleet retirements, and all the thrash associated means most of us will be stalled where we are at for the foreseeable future. Combined with Boeing woes and questionable future economic demand this is a perfect storm of stagnation.
buddy at Big D, SEA based, 737 Ca, Jr. Line holder, just under 4 yrs TOS. Doubtful that kind of progression continues there or anywhere else but needless to say your prospects are better in the near to medium term at a carrier not embroiled in a merger. I regret not leaving for D when it was practical to do so. Best of luck in your future
buddy at Big D, SEA based, 737 Ca, Jr. Line holder, just under 4 yrs TOS. Doubtful that kind of progression continues there or anywhere else but needless to say your prospects are better in the near to medium term at a carrier not embroiled in a merger. I regret not leaving for D when it was practical to do so. Best of luck in your future
05-22-2024, 04:13 PM
#875
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 50
My position is the merger is bad for Alaska pilots and their career progression. If the merger goes through I do not believe we will see hiring for a significant amount of time because HA is staffing for flying that is likely to evaporate rather quickly and/or get synergized into current route structures. Plus base realignments, fleet retirements, and all the thrash associated means most of us will be stalled where we are at for the foreseeable future. Combined with Boeing woes and questionable future economic demand this is a perfect storm of stagnation.
buddy at Big D, SEA based, 737 Ca, Jr. Line holder, just under 4 yrs TOS. Doubtful that kind of progression continues there or anywhere else but needless to say your prospects are better in the near to medium term at a carrier not embroiled in a merger. I regret not leaving for D when it was practical to do so. Best of luck in your future
buddy at Big D, SEA based, 737 Ca, Jr. Line holder, just under 4 yrs TOS. Doubtful that kind of progression continues there or anywhere else but needless to say your prospects are better in the near to medium term at a carrier not embroiled in a merger. I regret not leaving for D when it was practical to do so. Best of luck in your future
05-23-2024, 07:28 AM
#876
Prime Minister/Moderator
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,543
If you're much over 50 it's not going to do anything for you, and might hurt.
05-23-2024, 08:07 AM
#877
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Posts: 949
yep. In 5 years Hawaiian went from the highest stock price and healthiest balance sheet in it’s history to being on the brink. Spirit went from the highest margins airline to being in dire straits in about 7 years. Heed the warnings of history. Not many mergers who became dumpster fires and went bankrupt. If so, please educate me.
05-23-2024, 10:05 AM
#878
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Joined APC: Nov 2023
Posts: 7
Nothing about training but The VP did say they haven't even spoke about downgrades or displacements. Sounds like the reduced lines will be around for most in the fall. I'd like to give you good news about hiring but I am not that optomistic about hiring until we hear about the Max deliveries, economy and HA deal. Just my .02. Good luck.
05-23-2024, 12:23 PM
#879
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 1,185
**long sigh...** thanks a lot for the insight. Gonna start throwing out other apps once I get an ATP. Sucks becuase I'm leave the military in July so I have to put bread on the table and this really took the wind out of the sails for being able to live and work in the PNW. I guess the same happened to my buddies with SWA CJO's so I'm not alone.
05-23-2024, 12:49 PM
#880
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 473
[QUOTE=BigBeef88;3805044]**long sigh...** thanks a lot for the insight. Gonna start throwing out other apps once I get an ATP. Sucks becuase I'm leave the military in July so I have to put bread on the table and this really took the wind out of the sails for being able to live and work in the PNW. I guess the same happened to my buddies with SWA CJO's so I'm not alone.[/QUOTE
There’s always Delta if you want a base in the PNW
There’s always Delta if you want a base in the PNW
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