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vaksedtothemax 07-16-2024 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3820493)
AK is an OCONUS State, and the code for an Asian airline.

AS is the IATA airline code for Alaskan Air.

Duly noted, I guess fact checks are sometimes actually factually.

fostro 07-17-2024 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by PineappleXpres (Post 3820609)
Yep. Hence the repeated message of keeping things separate for a while. Integration, particularly fleet integration, will take a long time considering Boeings molasses delivery schedule.

LOL you're still spreading the false reality!!! You might want to do your homework AGAIN, "Alaska Airlines Requests US DOT to Transfer Hawaiian's International Routes Ahead of Merger".

Good luck HA, In Unity...

Cholla6918 07-17-2024 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by fostro (Post 3820781)
LOL you're still spreading the false reality!!! You might want to do your homework AGAIN, "Alaska Airlines Requests US DOT to Transfer Hawaiian's International Routes Ahead of Merger".

Good luck HA, In Unity...

How has United been treating you these days?

PineappleXpres 07-17-2024 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by fostro (Post 3820781)
LOL you're still spreading the false reality!!! You might want to do your homework AGAIN, "Alaska Airlines Requests US DOT to Transfer Hawaiian's International Routes Ahead of Merger".

Good luck HA, In Unity...

Okay fine all the 330s, and HAL pilots, are being moved to SeaTac. Still not phasing those babies out for the next decade.

DenainaPilot 07-17-2024 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by fostro (Post 3820781)
LOL you're still spreading the false reality!!! You might want to do your homework AGAIN, "Alaska Airlines Requests US DOT to Transfer Hawaiian's International Routes Ahead of Merger".

Good luck HA, In Unity...

This source says it’s mutual…
https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisag...oute-transfer/

PineappleXpres 07-17-2024 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by DenainaPilot (Post 3820797)

The definition of a troll. Obsessed with the “Ex”

vaksedtothemax 07-17-2024 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by PineappleXpres (Post 3820808)
The definition of a troll. Obsessed with the “Ex”

Just as long as "if" AS does end the HA brand you are willing to admit he was correct.

I also predict the eventual end of the brand down the road. Also a pretty drastic change in the standard way Hawaii routes and planes are utilized. IE: widebodies placed in SeaTAc. 321's eventually shelved.

If there is anything I've learned in a couple decades of doing this stuff, CEO's talk out of both sides of their mouths.

word302 07-17-2024 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by vaxedtothemax (Post 3820846)
Just as long as "if" AS does end the HA brand you are willing to admit he was correct.

I also predict the eventual end of the brand down the road. Also a pretty drastic change in the standard way Hawaii routes and planes are utilized. IE: widebodies placed in SeaTAc. 321's eventually shelved.

If there is anything I've learned in a couple decades of doing this stuff, CEO's talk out of both sides of their mouths.

The only way the HA brand goes away is if we adopt a brand new, combined brand. We already have a hard enough time convincing people on the East Coast that if they buy a ticket on Alaska Airlines they don't have to go through Anchorage. Yes the current branding works for the current model, but any kind of expansion outside of the PNW will require new branding to be successful.

PineappleXpres 07-17-2024 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by vaxedtothemax (Post 3820846)
Just as long as "if" AS does end the HA brand you are willing to admit he was correct.

I also predict the eventual end of the brand down the road. Also a pretty drastic change in the standard way Hawaii routes and planes are utilized. IE: widebodies placed in SeaTAc. 321's eventually shelved.

If there is anything I've learned in a couple decades of doing this stuff, CEO's talk out of both sides of their mouths.

It's the airline industry so I would HOPE airlines change their business model over the long term. To say Pualani or the 321s will be replaced in 7-10 years I'd say thats life. For it to happen immidiately or completed within 5 years is another matter entirely. It's what Fostro is insisting will happen.

rickair7777 07-17-2024 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 3820851)
The only way the HA brand goes away is if we adopt a brand new, combined brand. We already have a hard enough time convincing people on the East Coast that if they buy a ticket on Alaska Airlines they don't have to go through Anchorage. Yes the current branding works for the current model, but any kind of expansion outside of the PNW will require new branding to be successful.

Yes.

I don't think BM and ST are so in love with the current brand that they'd give up much more than a nickel to keep it. Unlike folks in the past, BT, etc.

If they want to be a national/global airline they're going to have to adjust the branding eventually. Maybe keep the Eskimo on one side of the tail and the hula girl on the other.


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