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PineappleXpres 07-11-2024 12:11 AM


Originally Posted by Neosporin (Post 3818995)
Plus they are investing in installation of Starlink already and should have all of them installed by the end of the year.

Any word from Alaska pilots on starlink and the companies considerations on the 737. It’s been mind blowing for us coconut heads.

Jetlikespeed 07-11-2024 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by PineappleXpres (Post 3818996)
Any word from Alaska pilots on starlink and the companies considerations on the 737. It’s been mind blowing for us coconut heads.

nothing
we have 2Ku internet on 99% of our bird that works pretty well. I don’t think the company will add star link. If anything they will add the 2Ku internet to the NEOs if they keep them

AKCattleCarrier 07-11-2024 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by blackbox348 (Post 3818990)
HAL 330s got the green light for a cabin refresh and new first class product last week

Yeah they repainted and put new interiors in the airbuses too. even put a custom jobby on one that faded from red to blue. and then.............................................. .........................GONE!

AKCattleCarrier 07-11-2024 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by Neosporin (Post 3818995)
Plus they are investing in installation of Starlink already and should have all of them installed by the end of the year.

no no, we like to make sure our customers have no access to the outside world when they are crossing the pacific jammed like sardines in the back of a 737 thats door plugs may or may not have the bolts installed (its the suspense that makes it fun!). Oh don't worry the pink haired girl with a tatoo crawling up her neck will throw a package ginger cookies at you from the rear galley as she calls you a fascist for not using her prefered pronouns.

Jetlikespeed 07-11-2024 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by AKCattleCarrier (Post 3819077)
no no, we like to make sure our customers have no access to the outside world when they are crossing the pacific jammed like sardines in the back of a 737 thats door plugs may or may not have the bolts installed (its the suspense that makes it fun!). Oh don't worry the pink haired girl with a tatoo crawling up her neck will throw a package ginger cookies at you from the rear galley as she calls you a fascist for not using her prefered pronouns.

2ku works over water when going to Hawaii
and is fast enough to stream YouTube tv Netflix Hulu etc

Jet J 07-11-2024 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlikespeed (Post 3819150)
2ku works over water when going to Hawaii
and is fast enough to stream YouTube tv Netflix Hulu etc

+1on this, works great over the water for me. On all my DH legs only of course. 😇

rickair7777 07-11-2024 12:27 PM

Yeah 2ku is satellite, not terrestial lol.

MinRest 07-11-2024 02:07 PM

2KU is already Sat wifi, no need for Starlink

AKCattleCarrier 07-12-2024 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by yallMahomies (Post 3818975)
The "quiet" comfy ride will be phased out almost immediately. AS does not want to deal with 330s at all. The 321s that HAL has will probably stick around for a little bit based on what Scott Day feels like. AS is dumb enough to do interisland flying with the 737s so wont be surprised when that happens. A good amount of the 787s will be in HNL with a decent amount in SEA too. However AS will have to sell an arm and a leg to get 787 gates and slots here in SeaTac so not sure on how that will work. Overall this merger seems like a mess and dont be baffled when you see 787s going to new hire 24 year olds in 7 years.

- Agree 330's are likely phased out quickly, too much overlap with 787
- 737 inter-island makes too much sense on paper to not do it. In practice? unless their is some rocket science too it that makes it somehow more dynamic than SE AK? HA pilots seem to think their is some kind of unique characteristic to that flying that only 717's can handle, I don't get it but time will tell I guess.
- I don't understand the value of 787s in HNL. Limits them to largely vacation travelers. Or SEA - ICN - HNL - ICN - SEA. Get the business folks and the SK vacation travelers. They use those WB gates in the S Concourse for international returns now, not sure how that works for big airplanes.
- Given the above, how does HNL not shrink?
- Took SD 10 years to get uniforms across the goaline and he was just passed over by one of his subordinates, not sure he's making decisions about anything.
- Agree this merger is a disastrous quagmire for pilot seniority progression
- If this goes sideways (which I believe is high probability) we can all waive goodbye to BM as he floats away on his golden parachute (VA FA and Lu Lu Luly in tow).

yallMahomies 07-12-2024 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by AKCattleCarrier (Post 3819398)
- Agree 330's are likely phased out quickly, too much overlap with 787
- 737 inter-island makes too much sense on paper to not do it. In practice? unless their is some rocket science too it that makes it somehow more dynamic than SE AK? HA pilots seem to think their is some kind of unique characteristic to that flying that only 717's can handle, I don't get it but time will tell I guess.
- I don't understand the value of 787s in HNL. Limits them to largely vacation travelers. Or SEA - ICN - HNL - ICN - SEA. Get the business folks and the SK vacation travelers. They use those WB gates in the S Concourse for international returns now, not sure how that works for big airplanes.
- Given the above, how does HNL not shrink?
- Took SD 10 years to get uniforms across the goaline and he was just passed over by one of his subordinates, not sure he's making decisions about anything.
- Agree this merger is a disastrous quagmire for pilot seniority progression
- If this goes sideways (which I believe is high probability) we can all waive goodbye to BM as he floats away on his golden parachute (VA FA and Lu Lu Luly in tow).

HNL will shrink for sure. Majority of the 787s will be out of SEA if Alaska can figure out the gate situation with seatac (don't really have high hopes for that). If AS figures it out, East Asia plus SYD & MEL can be done right. The amount of travelers connecting down to SFO and LAX to go across the Pacific is very high and if managment can take advantage of that then the WBs can be useful. If done right, SEA will have 787 & 737 while the rest of the bases are 737 equipped. Intresting to see how it will play out. Not looking forward to the 2 year seat lock on the 787...warning to the NHs


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