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Indeed, sir. Indeed.

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A change in attitude and ACTION by the pilot group would likely have had us enjoying the fruits of a negotiated contract now, not waiting to hear what an arbitrator has decided for us.

But we flat out did not compel them to respect us. We’re where we are now because of that.

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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 2445321)

He was probably confused about the SLI going to arbitration. That is ALPA policy.

Which is both sad and amazing that a pilot that works for ALK (assuming that Eskimoe Joe actually does) doesn't even realize that you are in the midst of arbitration for your JCBA contract and not even working on SLI yet.....

Yet still thinks that ALPA National is somehow the problem.

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Originally Posted by Just a Lurker (Post 2445382)

You're spot on. But it will never happen. Those residing above 13 Coins are too entrenched and skilled at the bureaucracy to ever let go of their grip. And the VX MEC has no backbone. They'll be swept aside for business as usual soon enough.

How do you have such strong opinions about BOTH MECs? Have you worked at both airlines?

When someone starts spouting “national” I read it the same as “lizard people”. It just misses the mark on how things get done. ALPA National is an awesome support structure, and an advocate for the profession as a whole. But all politics is local is true. Each group determines what they’ll accept. At AS, we’ve sadly accepted 92% for so long our management believes they’re entitled to it. WE have to change their minds. Not national, not the MEC. US.

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Originally Posted by Just a Lurker (Post 2445382)

Ha. No backbone?? Uhhhhhhhh ok. Keep telling yourself that

The primary architect of Alaska's contract becomes an Alaska Legend and isn't he on the committee for the JCBA for the AS side? If that's true then what more do you need to know.

Shy, not sure what you’ve “heard” but no one on the AS side of the JCBA is a legend.

Are you referring to MR, who is retired?

Interesting points.....but can we keep this off the Hiring thread? I'd like some Seniority....and a bigger pilot group which will have more power. :D

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Originally Posted by Thrill (Post 2445485)

Absolutely correct, the virgin pilots and MEC is very upset with things and if it is thought that we are weak boy oh boy will there be an eye opener. Most virgin pilots are from places that treated the rank and file so poorly they are no longer in business. There is a wdgac attitude and it is growing. Just look at the performance for the **** poor fifty scratches a month. We don’t give a c about it and the performance shows. 90% of us have been there done that
and are more than willing to let angle lake fail in spectacular fashion. Pilot demand is very high and the leadership is to snow blind to see it.