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rickair7777 02-01-2018 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2516848)
But wasn’t the real value in kock blocking JB from the west coast expansion?

Some people think the motive was fear of getting backed into corner, not enthusiasm for growth or evolution.

tzskipper 02-01-2018 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2516848)
But wasn’t the real value in kock blocking JB from the west coast expansion?

There definitely is a quantifiable value of the impact that a JB/VX hookup would potentially have had on yields. So aside from the basic facts of the balance sheet and income statement, there are these types of calculations also.

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flynshoe748 02-01-2018 09:26 AM

Alaska buys airlines when their perceived territory is threatened. Delta wanted Jet America, United wanted QX for regional feed, and JB wanted VX. I think QX was forced out of Frontier regional flying because of the same perception and then didn't know what to do with the CRJs. Leased all of them to OO or something. That could be perceived as a weakness in the business decision making process. Was that Eastern or Pan Am's way out? Not suggesting the VX merger would produce those results, but it has happened before.

Any more hiring news?

Packrat 02-01-2018 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Reactivity (Post 2516491)
And look at the massive pile of fail that is Southwest. What were they thinking?

The genius in this forum is simply off the charts. So many of you clearly missed your calling.

And that is exactly the model AS was going for with a single fleet. With VX they'll soldier on with the Airbus until the leases expire. As they do, they'll swap them for the 737s they ALREADY have on order. No sweat there.

As for the few VX owns outright, there are plenty of buyers out there who'll suck those off.

I don't understand how dumping the Airbus translates into losing the CA market.

Packrat 02-01-2018 11:14 AM

Pretty close. A few corrections as I lived it:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tailstand (Post 2516655)
If I recall correctly, the 727's were officially retired in '94 but realistically the fall of '93 (3 - 200's were retained for charters and 1 freighter),

The only 727 retained was the 727-100 they used as a freighter. Daily schedule: SEA-JNU-SEA.

This loss of revenue combined with the expense of keeping 300 pilots on payroll while they waited up to 1 year to be retrained...

This comment is incorrect. We had outsourced half the 737-400 training to United and did half in house. The only time pilots were on the payroll waiting for training was when the MD left the property and then it was October until March when the final crew started 737 school.

The summer of '93 was the worst for efficiency due to the many pieces of equipment and related bases:

737-200: ANC, SEA
737-400: SEA (introduced in '92 or might have been '91) Spring '92 was the first delivery. I was in the 2nd AS 737-400 class. My last 727 flight was 6/26/92 and first 737-400 sim was 7/10/92.
MD-80: SEA, LGB (ANC added in '97 for a short few years)Incorrect. See below.
727: SEA (3 positions - CA, F/O, Engineer)

The ANC MD base was only open 6 months and 1 day. We were halfway through MD school when the Russian oil industry collapsed. The ANC MD base was supposed to support that and AS also tried to generate a tourist industry to Lake Baikal. That failed as well.

They only kept the base open the extra day because the contract specified that if they closed it in less than 6 months, the company would have to buy the real estate the pilots had purchased in order to move to the new base.

That ANC MD base opened in December '98 and closed June '99.

Otherwise good info in both your posts.

miker1 02-01-2018 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AnchorDown (Post 2515741)
Just heard that all Airbus new hire classes have been cancelled for the foreseeable future? Is there truth to this and if so why?

AnchorDown

Alaska realized they could squeeze more out of vx pilots, ie they were overstaffed in the minds of alaska management.

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av8trinabarrel 02-01-2018 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozone (Post 2516317)
Has anyone gotten a call from latest meet in greet in mid-January? I received an email stating to wait for further steps in the next weeks, then nothing.

I was offered and accepted Feb 15.

GeorgeAmthor 02-01-2018 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by av8trinabarrel (Post 2517393)
I was offered and accepted Feb 15.

Offered and accepted what ???

av8trinabarrel 02-01-2018 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgeAmthor (Post 2517430)
Offered and accepted what ???

An Interview

GeorgeAmthor 02-01-2018 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by av8trinabarrel (Post 2517465)
An Interview

Oh. Okay. Best of luck. Did they call or was it an email? Just curious.


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