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Ronin47 01-26-2018 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by pete2800 (Post 2512408)
79 x 87 = 6,873. That's gross.

6,873 x 0.7 = 4,811. Add per diem, and you're looking at somewhere around 5,000 net.

Can you pick up any "open time" on top of the 79hrs? What is the maximum hours you can work per month? 88? Just trying to figure life as a first year FO living in expensive California!

N19906 01-26-2018 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by Ronin47 (Post 2511679)
Question, how are current upgrades going since January 11th (one certificate)? Are 9yr Bus Captains upgrading to the Boeing and being cut loose? Just curious how this will play out? Not trying to Flame just curious how the fleet and pilot seniority.

You’re getting waaay ahead of yourself there... It’s only been what, literally, days?
Wait for the SLI, then we can talk.

IDIOTPILOT 01-26-2018 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by Ronin47 (Post 2512604)
Can you pick up any "open time" on top of the 79hrs? What is the maximum hours you can work per month? 88? Just trying to figure life as a first year FO living in expensive California!

Which fleet are you planning to join? Still different scheduling work rules.

Ronin47 01-26-2018 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by IDIOTPILOT (Post 2512694)
Which fleet are you planning to join? Still different scheduling work rules.

Boeing, 73. Thanks in advance.

usernamehere 01-27-2018 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Ronin47 (Post 2512604)
Can you pick up any "open time" on top of the 79hrs? What is the maximum hours you can work per month? 88? Just trying to figure life as a first year FO living in expensive California!

On reserve you get 12 days off per month (as well as a good portion of the hard lines get 12 days off per month at least on the 737 side). Everything you pick up on your days off on reserve gets tacked on to the 79 hr guarantee (short call) regardless of how much you fly in the month. I know this is true if you pick up from the company. I’m not sure about from another pilot. I’d imagine it still gets tacked on. Maybe someone else can chime in on this. (I commute so I don’t plan on ever doing this until I move to base and by then I’ll be a lineholder so there may not be a point.)

Lars 01-27-2018 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by usernamehere (Post 2513371)
On reserve you get 12 days off per month (as well as a good portion of the hard lines get 12 days off per month at least on the 737 side). Everything you pick up on your days off on reserve gets tacked on to the 79 hr guarantee (short call) regardless of how much you fly in the month. I know this is true if you pick up from the company. I’m not sure about from another pilot. I’d imagine it still gets tacked on. Maybe someone else can chime in on this. (I commute so I don’t plan on ever doing this until I move to base and by then I’ll be a lineholder so there may not be a point.)

Reserves can only pick up open time. They can't do pilot to pilot pickup. I have no idea why but that's how the side letter was written so that's the way it is.

usernamehere 01-27-2018 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Lars (Post 2513447)
Reserves can only pick up open time. They can't do pilot to pilot pickup. I have no idea why but that's how the side letter was written so that's the way it is.

Thanks for the info!

Mudhen200 01-28-2018 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Lars (Post 2513447)
Reserves can only pick up open time. They can't do pilot to pilot pickup. I have no idea why but that's how the side letter was written so that's the way it is.

The reason is because we work for a ruthless management that could care less about our quality of life.

They want a reserve to work on his day off but only if it helps them become more efficient. If you fly on a day off and cover a trip out of open time it helps them tremendously.

But - If they allowed you to fly on your day off and cover your buddies trip, it does nothing for them. The trip was already covered by your buddy. Therefore, they won’t let you fly unless it benefits them, not the pilots.

This is a perfect example of how ruthless this company is. They will give you nothing, even something as simple as trying to help a buddy out on your day off.

Reactivity 01-28-2018 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by Mudhen200 (Post 2513627)
The reason is because we work for a ruthless management that could care less about our quality of life.

Even if they’re ruthless, it’s nice that they don’t care less about your quality of life. Most other ruthless managements that could care less actually would care less.

TripleCrank 01-29-2018 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by Mudhen200 (Post 2513627)
The reason is because we work for a ruthless management that could care less about our quality of life.

They want a reserve to work on his day off but only if it helps them become more efficient. If you fly on a day off and cover a trip out of open time it helps them tremendously.

But - If they allowed you to fly on your day off and cover your buddies trip, it does nothing for them. The trip was already covered by your buddy. Therefore, they won’t let you fly unless it benefits them, not the pilots.

This is a perfect example of how ruthless this company is. They will give you nothing, even something as simple as trying to help a buddy out on your day off.

We receive what we negotiate. Communicate with your ALPA rep and let them know that the ability to trip trade while on reserve is a priority for you in the next contract.

Reserve rules are rarely a negotiation priority because 90% of voting pilots are not on reserve.


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