Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2511479)

I don't want to discourage anyone from coming here or not, it's their own prerogative. If one wants to entertain numbers to see how it looks?

We have combined ~2,900 pilots and hiring for a total of about ~3,200-3,300 by year end 2018. 10 year retirement (2018-2027) total for both sides combined = 622.

That represents barely 20% of the pilot list over the next 10 years. If you start as a newhire right now as 3,000 or junior, you will be a FO for a loooong time. 622 retirements in 10 yrs means you'll be ~2,380 out of 4,000 to maybe 4,500 pilots. Most of it depends on the fleet plan and just how big we get. Growth to AAG includes both Horizon and Alaska. It's highly doubtful that Alaska will double its mainline fleet in the next 10 yrs. So if you start at 3,000 and assuming upgrade goes to about 50-55% on the list, just how big does the pilot group have to be for a 3,000 today to see a CA slot? 5,000ish?

Next 10 year (2018-2027) retirements at AA: 8,200 (out of ~15,600) which represents 53% of the entire pilot list.
Next 10 year (2018-2027) retirements at DL: 6,400 out of 14,500 which represents 44% of the entire list.

Originally Posted by Ronin47 (Post 2511679)

Question, how are current upgrades going since January 11th (one certificate)? Are 9yr Bus Captains upgrading to the Boeing and being cut loose? Just curious how this will play out? Not trying to Flame just curious how the fleet and pilot seniority.

Originally Posted by Ronin47 (Post 2511679)

Question, how are current upgrades going since January 11th (one certificate)? Are 9yr Bus Captains upgrading to the Boeing and being cut loose? Just curious how this will play out? Not trying to Flame just curious how the fleet and pilot seniority.

Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2511688)

The one certificate was FAA admin. The pilot groups are still separate, until the fall time-frame. There may be fences for a while after that.

Originally Posted by sparrowhawk (Post 2512381)

Could someone currently at Alaska comment on what the new first year monthly gross is , and net after some common deductions? Just looking for some realistic numbers through training and the rest of first year for planning. Thanks!

Originally Posted by pete2800 (Post 2512408)

79 x 87 = 6,873. That's gross.

6,873 x 0.7 = 4,811. Add per diem, and you're looking at somewhere around 5,000 net.

Originally Posted by sparrowhawk (Post 2512455)

Thank you for the reply, hourly rate will go to 89.61 in April Correct? I assume health insurance is reasonable? Any idea on the family plan costs? Are hotels paid during training?

Originally Posted by arctic099 (Post 2512456)

Was it confirmed that Alaska cancelled their March classes? Or was it just the Jan 29 class?