None given yet....

We were expecting another vacancy bid to come out last week but it never happened. Was going to be effective June. hmm..

Just another sign of the lack of direction.

New position bid should post around 29JAN. They only canceled an Airbus class.


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We shouldn’t be cancelling any classes. This should be a warning to anyone dumb enough to still want to come work here.

This industry is trending upward for the first time in a long time. American, delta, ual, southwest and just about everyone else is continually hiring at a decent rate. But not us. Why is Alaska so unpredictable? The arrogance and ignorance with the people than run this place is amazing. Instead of growing and being a player in the industry, we cut routes, lose passengers to better airlines, and spend money on stupid new uniforms. Mgmt seems more focused on beating down current employees rather than be an airline that shines. I predict rough seas ahead for this broken ship.

Good info thanks

There’s a class on 19MAR and 09APR.

The buses go to the paint shop and they delay a class of 8-10? I wouldn't read anything industry-shattering into that.

It’s postponed because there is no available instructors. They pulled a bunch of pilots from the line to help out but it was too much. VX has never seen this many classes go through at once and wasn’t prepared for it.

I don't want to discourage anyone from coming here or not, it's their own prerogative. If one wants to entertain numbers to see how it looks?

We have combined ~2,900 pilots and hiring for a total of about ~3,200-3,300 by year end 2018. 10 year retirement (2018-2027) total for both sides combined = 622.

That represents barely 20% of the pilot list over the next 10 years. If you start as a newhire right now as 3,000 or junior, you will be a FO for a loooong time. 622 retirements in 10 yrs means you'll be ~2,380 out of 4,000 to maybe 4,500 pilots. Most of it depends on the fleet plan and just how big we get. Growth to AAG includes both Horizon and Alaska. It's highly doubtful that Alaska will double its mainline fleet in the next 10 yrs. So if you start at 3,000 and assuming upgrade goes to about 50-55% on the list, just how big does the pilot group have to be for a 3,000 today to see a CA slot? 5,000ish?

Next 10 year (2018-2027) retirements at AA: 8,200 (out of ~15,600) which represents 53% of the entire pilot list.
Next 10 year (2018-2027) retirements at DL: 6,400 out of 14,500 which represents 44% of the entire list.