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FreqFlyer 10-24-2022 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by direct2entent (Post 3519016)
WWYD...
Live in SEA, transcon commute to regional, sick of the commute and juniority. Class date at Alaska coming up soon. CJO at Delta, waiting for class date assignment but they are telling us to expect 3.5 months to indoc due to training backlog.

The doom & gloomers here will tell you Delta, but from what I think I heard SEA is pretty overstaffed for them and might take a while to get now.

At least with Alaska, 100% you’ll be able to get SEA right out of the gate…

rickair7777 10-24-2022 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by direct2entent (Post 3519016)
WWYD...
Live in SEA, transcon commute to regional, sick of the commute and juniority. Class date at Alaska coming up soon. CJO at Delta, waiting for class date assignment but they are telling us to expect 3.5 months to indoc due to training backlog.


If you're 55+ years old, I'd probably just take AS, no risk of having to commute. But your SSN last four matters at DL... higher (larger) number is better. That can be the difference between SEA/west coast out of the gate or commuting to a seat lock in NY.

If you're under 40, DL for sure.

In between, depends on your personal priorities but lean towards DL unless you really, really hate commuting.

Make sure you understand the seniority demographics on the DL fleets at SEA... how soon to get in, and then how fast does seniority progress.

DotMatrix 10-24-2022 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by FreqFlyer (Post 3519023)
The doom & gloomers here will tell you Delta, but from what I think I heard SEA is pretty overstaffed for them and might take a while to get now.

At least with Alaska, 100% you’ll be able to get SEA right out of the gate…


Doom and gloom? Maybe think of the long game. How many people have left Delta to come to Alaska? SEA, LAX, & SLC have all been randomly offered to new hires in the last few months.

Twr199 10-24-2022 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by FreqFlyer (Post 3519023)
The doom & gloomers here will tell you Delta, but from what I think I heard SEA is pretty overstaffed for them and might take a while to get now.

At least with Alaska, 100% you’ll be able to get SEA right out of the gate…

Alaska’s new contract and pay looks great. Their seniority movement doesn’t. That reason alone is why I jumped ship. Come to the south side.

rickair7777 10-24-2022 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by DotMatrix (Post 3519032)
Doom and gloom? Maybe think of the long game. How many people have left Delta to come to Alaska? SEA, LAX, & SLC have all been randomly offered to new hires in the last few months.

Yes. But not if your last four is 0035

FreqFlyer 10-24-2022 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3519041)
Yes. But not if your last four is 0035

That’s the top reason why Delta is so unattractive to me, as my last four are very similar to the above

DotMatrix 10-24-2022 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3519041)
Yes. But not if your last four is 0035

Just trying to point out there's movement and Seattle isn't a long reach, especially with talks of more frequent, smaller system bids (or AEs). Ask some of the AS new hires about getting the Bus with no choice in the matter. Not likely to happen again, but not impossible with our management planners.

rickair7777 10-24-2022 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by DotMatrix (Post 3519060)
Just trying to point out there's movement and Seattle isn't a long reach, especially with talks of more frequent, smaller system bids (or AEs). Ask the some of the AS new hires about getting the Bus with no choice in the matter. Not likely to happen again, but not impossible with our management planners.

I believe AS is unusual in that no seat lock for new hires?

snackysmores 10-24-2022 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3519066)
I believe AS is unusual in that no seat lock for new hires?

No seat lock for your initial aircraft assignment correct.

Twr199 10-24-2022 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by FreqFlyer (Post 3519053)
That’s the top reason why Delta is so unattractive to me, as my last four are very similar to the above

Short perspective for a long career.


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