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100LL 04-04-2016 12:22 PM

What does this mean to new hires? Will they now be asked to go to the crappy domiciles of Virgin?

Bugaboo 04-04-2016 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by GPullR (Post 2102963)
Don't think so fast. Longevity and career expectation are defiantly favorable for Alaska . Bet they get a big adjustment.

Longevity ....yes
Career Expectations.....no

Make your voice heard to your respective MECs and let them take it from there. Best of luck to all.

eaglefly 04-04-2016 01:49 PM

ALPA merger policy will govern. Variables include comparing pay/bennies though. Should favor Alaska, but only slightly IMO.

say again 04-04-2016 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by ASpilot0936 (Post 2102925)
If ALPA signs off on putting 9 year guys at the top of our list there's going to be he!! to pay....

VA pilots should not bump our Capt's or delay our upgrades. If they can't do anything else, then keeps the lists separate.


Ooooooh, internet tough guy!:rolleyes:

donwonton 04-04-2016 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Bugaboo (Post 2102978)
Career Expectations.....no

There have been more VA pilots going to AS than AS pilots going to VA. Just sayin.

2loud 04-04-2016 02:00 PM

Both carriers being ALPA, it can't be a staple job. Having said that, since Virgin pilots do not have a ALPA CBA, how is that going to impact the SLI? I hope that this doesn't turn into another east vs. west debacle. Both pilot groups have to be realistic but Virgin boys & girls probably will not fare well on the SLI for the most part, depending on one's perspective. It's just my guess and pure speculation at this point. Interesting times ahead for sure.

ASpilot0936 04-04-2016 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2103027)
ALPA merger policy will govern.

Which says that everything is negotiable in regards to SLI.....

None of us want VA guys above us. I just have the balls to say it first. If ALPA screws us, then I want them off property as I no longer want to pay for a union that doesn't look out for my best interest no matter what the issue.

pilotgolfer 04-04-2016 02:18 PM

VA shouldn't definitely hire Katz as their attorney. He's the best. You Alaska guys should even offer to pay his fees for VA.

EskimoJoe 04-04-2016 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by ASpilot0936 (Post 2103037)
Which says that everything is negotiable in regards to SLI.....

None of us want VA guys above us. I just have the balls to say it first. If ALPA screws us, then I want them off property as I no longer want to pay for a union that doesn't look out for my best interest no matter what the issue.

Lighten up Francis. They're ALPA too. Everybody's interests will be presented via their respective legal teams and an arbitrator, (barring prior negotiation) will decide what is a "fair and equitable" list. Threatening to dump ALPA is a fools errand. There's plenty of recent examples of how that strategy is a loser.

Get used to the term "fair and equitable". That's the goal. Each merger turns on it's own factual circumstances. Looking to other mergers is mostly a waste of time. This Marathon hasn't even REMOTELY begun. Don't spin yourself into hypertension this early on.

Bugaboo 04-04-2016 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by donwonton (Post 2103032)
There have been more VA pilots going to AS than AS pilots going to VA. Just sayin.

As of today that looks like a bad move on their part


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