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FUDolphin 04-04-2016 05:40 PM

I'm just here for the gang bang.:cool:

Bugaboo 04-04-2016 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by 2loud (Post 2103200)
The blood hasn't even dried and we already have people whining like stuck pigs. You know who you are, "oh my vagina hurts" cry babies! SLI will be what it will be and none of us involved will have very little to no control over it. I feel for all ranks but especially the junior folks, no doubt.
Some of you feel extremely entitled, having spent over a decade at a regional or wherever before coming to Alaskan Airways. Guess what, everyone here has paid their dues one way or another so man up! We all bash the senior "I got mine" crowd but some of you act just like them. Like it or not, $hit just hit the fan for both pilot groups and neither of the groups wanted/asked for/dreamed of this so now, we deal with it like an adult. I hate to break it to you but life is not fair. I bet you didn't know that. For once, put yourself aside and try to put yourself in the shoes of a junior Virgin pilot or someone less junior to you. This is the exact sort of attitude that got us our current turd of a contract! True colors are coming out from the woodworks.
Btw, I'm pretty sure Klsytakesit voted NO on our last contract. I know it's just a web forum but you'll get no credibility when you spout off from your anus.

This!! I hope for all parties it goes as good as can be expected. Great guys on both sides so lets not get at each others throats. In a way im sure MGT would love to see that.

donwonton 04-04-2016 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by 2loud (Post 2103200)
Some of you feel extremely entitled, having spent over a decade at a regional or wherever before coming to Alaskan Airways.

Wut? :confused:

Klsytakesit 04-04-2016 06:14 PM

Most of the loudest, sniveling blowhards at Alaskan are the legacy brats and their tight buddies.....No doubt there will be changes in store....more for some than others....Thats how it is....and I do have a perfect record of no votes

2loud 04-04-2016 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by donwonton (Post 2103215)
Wut? :confused:

Seriously dude?!?!
I won't get into details and start another argument, as some of ya'll just like to pick fights on these boards. EVERYONE paid their dues, whether you were a regional guy or a military bubba. Everyone has a sob story. Quite frankly, I'm tired of these guys who come up to me and tell me, "I didn't f-ing spend xx years at a regional for this". News flash.... no one made you give up your cushy regional job to come here. If the regional world was so cushy, why did you leave? You knew exactly what the pay rates/bennies were and what you were getting into, and now that your buddy who is at UAL, DAL, AA, FedEx, UPS, etc. are making a heck of lot more $$$ than you, you feel robbed, right? It's human nature and I totally get it. Really, I do. There are doers and then there's the entitled crowd.... you know, the loud mouth cry babies who won't do jack about their situation. I suggest that you either stay here and make things better or aggressively seek out your dream airline. I would if I were under 40 with less than 5 years on the property.
I'm no company man and this pilot group is weak and dysfunctional, I know. I whine with the best of them but I refuse to feel entitled. I'm here to stay and will do my best to make this place better for ALL pilots. The "association" nor the company will make it happen, so it's up to each of us to make things right. I choose to treat everyone with respect and compassion to the best of my abilities. I know a thing or two about trials and tribulations of life. I busted my a$$ since I was a kid and damn right, I've earned my place in life with a lot of help from the Man above.
Again, crying out of your anus gets you no where, even on a public forum. There are plenty of guys here on the property who've "paid" the price. Just ask the post Kasher survivors and worse yet, the folks who were furloughed. It will always be something, so get used to it.

ShyGuy 04-04-2016 07:17 PM

There is no point to this thread. Clearly someone just created a new screen and started this thread to flame. Every AS pilot I've come across has been a fine gentleman (and gal once), and look forward to working with you all.

A330Checkairman 04-04-2016 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by ASpilot0936 (Post 2102925)
If ALPA signs off on putting 9 year guys at the top of our list there's going to be he!! to pay....

VA pilots should not bump our Capt's or delay our upgrades. If they can't do anything else, then keeps the lists separate.

Im one of those senior VX guys. I am however very grateful that I will at atleast have a job since my beautiful wife of 26 years has only a few months to live. She won't be here to see the transition, but atleast she will know her husband can still support her children, get them through college, and hopefully have a great career at AS. I will take a right seat job and pull gear for you sir. I think you will appreciate my 30 years of experience and maybe buy me a beer. That's all I am asking.

mike734 04-04-2016 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by A330Checkairman (Post 2103273)
Im one of those senior VX guys. I am however very grateful that I will at atleast have a job since my beautiful wife of 26 years has only a few months to live. She won't be here to see the transition, but atleast she will know her husband can still support her children, get them through college, and hopefully have a great career at AS. I will take a right seat job and pull gear for you sir. I think you will appreciate my 30 years of experience and maybe buy me a beer. That's all I am asking.

BOOM! (Drops mic)

PrattFan 04-04-2016 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by ASpilot0936 (Post 2102925)
If ALPA signs off on putting 9 year guys at the top of our list there's going to be he!! to pay....

VA pilots should not bump our Capt's or delay our upgrades. If they can't do anything else, then keeps the lists separate.

Dude, I think you left your real screen name in the other thread.


Originally Posted by clear4approach (Post 2101767)
Cue the Alaska pilots calling for the VX pilots to be stapled, or integrated into their seniority list only from 2007 on in 3, 2, 1......

So when no one came through with your prediction you create a sock puppet, start a new thread and fulfill your prophecy yourself? Certainly by now you've gotten better at being a douche than this. :rolleyes:

Al Czervik 04-04-2016 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2103102)
In arbitration both sides walk a fine line by presenting what is most favorable to their interests without blatantly overreaching. ......

Oh, irony. Sweet irony. Does that mean "don't put a guy with 60 days on property above a 30 year guy?"


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