Longevity won't matter much anyway. Two narrow body fleets merging will be pretty close to relative seniority with a couple percentage skew for time on property like UAL CAL probably.

I predict everyone ends up within 5% of the pre-SLI seniority.

Tilden better pray the 8 year VX guys aren't integrated with a 30+ year Alaska Captains.

Hittin the Jackpot !
 

Truth. And there is the rub.

The old guard are the sky gods. Anybody with a 30 + year pin around here is just different than the rank and file. I have seen that most of them have been smart with their money and really just work because they want to. Most are happy men / women. They have been there and done that to the point that they know what's going on with this company. They get time off (that most of us can't) by instructing or doing some other kind of "company business", they play golf with the right people and sometimes simply making a phone call to their other buddy of 30 + years, who is in charge of this or that, gets them just about anything they want.

Now if a Virgin comes in hear and ends up senior to a 15 year Native, there will be grumbles. If a Virgin comes in here and ends up senior to a 20 year Native, the torches will be lit. If a Virgin comes in here and ends up in our top 10%, Lord help us. The sky gods will burn down Brad's house! Then the wheels will fall off the cart for years until all the sky god's retire.

In what universe can a man with 9 years service expect to be equal (in seniority) to a man with 30+ years? But that may very will happen and there is not a darn thing any of us can do to stop it. So - if it happens, there will be Virgins who literally hit the jackpot. If there is any justice in the universe, I hope it's they fella who is loosing his wife, or the guy who has had an especially hard career or at the very least - someone who respects and understands that in no way are they deserving of the seniority number that they have been given.

But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.

If the top 1/3 maybe even top 1/2 of Alaska's list get's screwed. The labor discord will be very real.

It is incredible how immature and selfish the Alaska pilot group has always been and will always be.......Our attention to me first certainly shows in the mom&pop contract we work under........At seventeen years , I hope to see some New Co-Workers above me on the seniority list...And I hope all Alaska Pilots...All 2600 or so of us stay focused on landing a contract that has us at the very top of our industry in pay retirement work rules etc.....we need to be a unified group inorder to fight against BradBenetall....and win....they are the enemy not the union brothers and sisters who are joining us from Virgin

Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Aren't you the angry ex-westie that touted the Nicolau award? You know, the one where guys with 17 years uninterrupted service went junior to guys that were in indoctrination when the merger was announced. :eek:

Karma.

tilden isnt involved because its the alpa merger policy. and why wouldnt there be virgin guys in the top 10% of the new alaska. career expectations on both sides are just narrowbody captain becauz there are no widebodies. it seems that some alaska guys here actually think the most senor virgin guy will show up no worse than a 2004 slotting on the new list. that is a straight windfall for alaska and simply wont happen. just take your ego out of it. in arbitration its most likely going to be straight relative with adjusted ratios favoring the alaska side for higher longevity. something like straight relative and then a 5 to 20% hit for the virgin guys. ironically some of the anti alpa pilots at virgin are the ex us air guys but now the tune has changed once the tables are turned. gotta wonder if their usapa doh mantra still rings true for them.

what are you going to do. you cant pull a usapa. seriously just take a deep breathe and let the process play itself out. youll save yorself a lot of money on antacids that way.

One naive MF.

You are absolutely right college boy