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contrails 05-27-2016 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by F15Cricket (Post 2136239)
So, that's what, about 8-10 years?! And there is no way there will be that many more gates, and the runways cannot handle that much more traffic. I think your tech ops dude is dreaming ...
You really believe that the runways at SEA cannot handle that much more traffic?

tunes 05-27-2016 07:33 PM
Originally Posted by contrails (Post 2136315)
You really believe that the runways at SEA cannot handle that much more traffic?
it helps him sleep at night

Justdoinmyjob 05-28-2016 06:06 AM
Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta (Post 2136272)
If it does turn out to be true that SEA will be the first C-Series base, it'll be a big middle finger to Boeing, too. Intentional or not, that's a bold move.
Boeing moving the corporate structure to Chicago was a huge middle finger to SEA. They have no loyalty to SEA beyond lip service to placate the local population. The fact that we are taking 330s and 350s over the 777 and 787 should be the middle finger to Boeing.

full of luv 05-28-2016 07:19 AM
Originally Posted by F15Cricket (Post 2136239)
So, that's what, about 8-10 years?! And there is no way there will be that many more gates, and the runways cannot handle that much more traffic. I think your tech ops dude is dreaming ...
There's NOTHING to rent in all of Tuscany??? Nothing available?:eek:

F15Cricket 05-28-2016 07:37 AM
Originally Posted by Peoloto (Post 2136251)
If you want to believe that go ahead. Delta has already said SEA will grow, the cseries are going there and international will grow once a new customs facility is built.
So, what is your estimate on the timing to complete a NEW customs facility? The estimate to complete the renovations on the existing north satellite are 2020-2022, I believe. So, a new facility will likely take longer, I am guessing....

F15Cricket 05-28-2016 07:43 AM
Originally Posted by contrails (Post 2136315)
You really believe that the runways at SEA cannot handle that much more traffic?
Not sure if you fly through there often or not ... But to me, it looks like SEA does not seem able to handle much more traffic, especially if Delta says they are going to "double" their traffic. If a lot that growth is heavies, which requires increased spacing for wake turbulence and they only take-off or land on the inside runway, that will further affect SEA's traffic flow. Sorry to use logic, as I know it may not help you bubbas sleep at night...

contrails 05-28-2016 07:48 AM
Originally Posted by F15Cricket (Post 2136466)
Not sure if you fly through there often or not ... But to me, it looks like SEA does not seem able to handle much more traffic, especially if Delta says they are going to "double" their traffic. If a lot that growth is heavies, which requires increased spacing for wake turbulence and they only take-off or land on the inside runway, that will further affect SEA's traffic flow. Sorry to use logic, as I know it may not help you bubbas sleep at night...
I fly there and lots of other places.

When you're number 20 to takeoff on a sunny day, you'll know that KSEA is maxed out.

Until then . . . not even close!

Plenty of room for growth at all hours of the day.

Gates/customs are the only limiting factor.








Originally Posted by F15Cricket (Post 2136466)
But to me, it looks like

Originally Posted by F15Cricket (Post 2136466)
Sorry to use logic

WhatNow 05-28-2016 08:03 AM
Originally Posted by F15Cricket (Post 2136466)
Not sure if you fly through there often or not ... But to me, it looks like SEA does not seem able to handle much more traffic, especially if Delta says they are going to "double" their traffic. If a lot that growth is heavies, which requires increased spacing for wake turbulence and they only take-off or land on the inside runway, that will further affect SEA's traffic flow. Sorry to use logic, as I know it may not help you bubbas sleep at night...
You must fly in a insulated world. Come out to JFK some afternoon and I will show you what busy looks like. SEA has lots of room to grow. I have never had a taxi time longer then 20 minutes in SEA and can't recall ever holding inbound. Ground facilities are the limiting factor. Delta will have 3 more domestic gates coming online for the C series. That will give them 30 more domestic flights a day. The city of Seattle is pulling out all the stops to fix the customs issue. They are looking at remote gating with buses additional domestic.

RetiredFTS 05-28-2016 02:39 PM
Originally Posted by F15Cricket (Post 2136466)
Not sure if you fly through there often or not ... But to me, it looks like SEA does not seem able to handle much more traffic, especially if Delta says they are going to "double" their traffic. If a lot that growth is heavies, which requires increased spacing for wake turbulence and they only take-off or land on the inside runway, that will further affect SEA's traffic flow. Sorry to use logic, as I know it may not help you bubbas sleep at night...
How long did SEA function with16C closed? Rwys are not an issue.

Peoloto 05-28-2016 04:13 PM
Originally Posted by RetiredFTS (Post 2136609)
How long did SEA function with16C closed? Rwys are not an issue.
According to this

Ready for take-off in 2016: vast expansion of Sea-Tac Airport - Puget Sound Business Journal



AK has 5,000 landings a month vs Delta's 1500~

Imagine what Delta will be able to do once they have close to the same number of gates in a couple years.


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