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FIIGMO 05-29-2016 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by F15Cricket (Post 2136239)
So, that's what, about 8-10 years?! And there is no way there will be that many more gates, and the runways cannot handle that much more traffic. I think your tech ops dude is dreaming ...

Yep you are from that squadron!

overcast 06-01-2016 11:48 PM

SEA customs / immigration is a nightmare that could quite easily be fixed by implementing a slot system. Why have so many widebodies (8?) arrive in one hour, just around noon? Spread it out! Standing in the hallway in double lines for over an hour is not doing anybody any good. I've stood there, quite a few times.

As far as Boeing and loyalty to As or Seattle.... there is none! Headquarters moved to Chicago, training center to Miami, half of 787 to S. Carolina, part of design to Russia, 787 parts to all over the world. 777-X almost left but thanks to a subsidy from the taxpayers in a fight to keep jobs it stays in Everett. Trying to keep jobs so they can lay off 4000 people.
I would be very surprised if the next plane they come out with will be built in Seattle. Charleston, Alabama, China....
And a little fish like AS should be important when a Ryanair orders 200 737's at a time, or Emirates orders 100 777's? I am surprised there is not a 777 assembly plant in Dubai (DWC) yet. Plenty of space, plenty of cheap labor, and another biggest / first / only "thing" in Dubai. Aluminium plant next to the airport. Two of your biggest customers within 30 minutes flying. Quality control will be a big issue. The mentality of the cheap labor is that it does not matter if something fits correctly, if it kinda looks ok, then it is good enough.

Molon Labe 06-04-2016 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 2136944)
Yep you are from that squadron!

Is Cricket "That guy from Kadena" ????

Molon Labe 06-06-2016 10:19 PM

As I derive from the post from FIIGMO.....???????possibly intimate knowledge??????

cornbeef007 06-27-2016 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by Peoloto (Post 2136076)
Just talked to one of the SEA tech ops big wigs recently. He said SEA is planned to double in size once everything is completed, terminal and customs.

Until then, summer schedule of 2017 appears to be a contraction, when compared to this summer(2016). Many current markets will no longer be served non-stop by Delta out of Seattle (MSO, BIL, BZN). Some appear to be straight up abandoned, meaning Alaska is going to run those flights......again (JNU, SIT, KTN)

Really 06-28-2016 05:10 AM

I think UAL is trying to make SFO such an Asian fortress, that they make SEA irrelevant both DAL and AK. ;)

Coronado 06-28-2016 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by Peoloto (Post 2136636)
According to this

Ready for take-off in 2016: vast expansion of Sea-Tac Airport - Puget Sound Business Journal



AK has 5,000 landings a month vs Delta's 1500~

Imagine what Delta will be able to do once they have close to the same number of gates in a couple years.

AK and DL combined are at 215/day. Add 85/day for other operators and we are at 300/day. If Gatwick can handle close to 900 operations a day, and San Diego can handle upwards of 500, SEATAC should certainly be able to bump their daily numbers to 400 even if they were to shut down 2 of the existing 3 runways. Limitation is in gate space and FIS. That is fixable even with some temporary buildings. Maybe they can dismantle and ship by rail some of the unused facilities at CVG!

http://www.gatwickobviously.com/news...london-gatwick

N19906 06-28-2016 08:54 AM

I don't know how that's going to work. SEA is already choking on airplanes. 16C is supposed to reopen today, but flow delays have become the norm if you're heading there. They're also doing gate-hold proceedures when the line to the end of the runway gets too long. We had to sit over fifteen minutes loaded at the gate before they released us last week. Wx was CAVU.
They don't have enough taxiway space for all the movements, and every time a heavy needs 16L for landing preformance, well, that's the primary departure runway.
Ten years ago or so, we didn't even have a ramp control frequency, much less multiples, and now at times it's a battle to get a word in at all.

WhatNow 06-28-2016 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by N19906 (Post 2152192)
I don't know how that's going to work. SEA is already choking on airplanes. 16C is supposed to reopen today, but flow delays have become the norm if you're heading there. They're also doing gate-hold proceedures when the line to the end of the runway gets too long. We had to sit over fifteen minutes loaded at the gate before they released us last week. Wx was CAVU.
They don't have enough taxiway space for all the movements, and every time a heavy needs 16L for landing preformance, well, that's the primary departure runway.
Ten years ago or so, we didn't even have a ramp control frequency, much less multiples, and now at times it's a battle to get a word in at all.

15 minutes! You've led a very sheltered life!

N19906 06-28-2016 08:25 PM

And I'd prefer to keep it that way! :-)


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