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Old 07-12-2017, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dawgdriver View Post
Rumor has it he might have been asked to leave.
He must have asked Uncle Maury to hire some new people in payroll and revamp it...can't have people paid properly...
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Old 07-13-2017, 02:18 PM
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Sun Country folk may not realize it yet, but they are lucky to have him!

While I agree 100% with you, the NWA guys told us the same thing about Bingo.
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Old 07-14-2017, 06:40 AM
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While I agree 100% with you, the NWA guys told us the same thing about Bingo.
....and for the first year they were spot on.

In Greg's defense, there were some things that went down in those early days that turned Greg into what he became. He started here working very well with AAPAG and making a lot of positive change.
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Old 07-14-2017, 08:11 AM
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....and for the first year they were spot on.

In Greg's defense, there were some things that went down in those early days that turned Greg into what he became. He started here working very well with AAPAG and making a lot of positive change.
Hard to justify force feeding us PBS.
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:22 AM
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Hard to justify force feeding us PBS.
I never said it justified it, and I'm not defending anything Greg did. Just putting context to why he went from a pilot friendly manager to a typical manager.
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Old 07-16-2017, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by labbats View Post
Hard to justify force feeding us PBS.
Or, among other things, a fueling policy which aimed to remove captain discretion and pressured inexperienced and intimidated dispatchers to load minimum fuel to remote locations, oh, like Fargo. Ironically it was his own self-imposed, nationally televised fuel emergency that was the final nail to his highly contentious tenure at G4. 'Bingo's' typical NWA style, legacy swagger and stubborn refusal to listen were major contributors to G4 pilots seeking outside representation. Loss of income, mission mode abuse, disastrous implementation of a deeply flawed scheduling system, safety concerns, rampant and unwarranted terminations, training deficiencies, etc., all came shortly after his arrival. Sadly, after being warmly welcomed by an optimistic, open-minded pilot group, his departure was widely applauded and came without tearful sendoffs.

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Old 07-16-2017, 03:29 PM
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I'd say ANYTHING is POSSIBLE. The question is what's likely.

Allegiant gains an international infrastructure by buying SY, which is something management has been chasing for a while now, but haven't been able to pull off. Also get a bunch of ETOPS NGs that can make it to Hawaii. AAY would love to get back there after our last 757 gets parked late this year.

Down side is adding another type to an airline that's gone all in for Airbus. My understanding is that SY also carries a large debt load, something allegiant management shuns. Integrating two very different pilot groups with two different unions could be a fiasco. Totally different business models. Allegiant will do anything to make a buck, but runs away from anything that loses a dime like the building is on fire. Our CEO likes to gamble though.

I think the negatives outweigh the positives, but I don't have an MBA, so what do I know. If G4 did buy SY, I would expect everything there as you know it to change. Don't expect more than a handful of planes devoted to MSP. 737s will scatter among the system. It will be more of an assimilation than a merger. Kind of like Alaska/Virgin.
Those 73's have a street value something fierce... maybe we trade alaska 1 for 2 with the busses they don't want.
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Old 07-21-2017, 05:46 AM
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Those 73's have a street value something fierce... maybe we trade alaska 1 for 2 with the busses they don't want.
Management thinking there.
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