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05-11-2022, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Margaritaville

I wonder how G4 pumping the brakes on small mid continent bases is going to affect BLV. They've dumped a ton of money into that terminal expansion and haven't gotten much grant money to cover it. But then that airport has been a bottomless pit for about 20 years now. Maybe Avelo and Breeze will start service there.

They actually got a bunch of grant money to pay for the expansion. The extra 10 million in grant money they got almost exactly a year ago moved the timeline up a year. It originally was supposed to be done end of 2023. That was on top of the 6.5 mil and 4.7 mil they got the year before in grant money. So that left about 3.8 million not covered. But I’m guessing there were more grants besides those three.

One thing BLV is good at is getting grant money to pay for things.

side note: It won’t be breeze going in there. They will be at STL if they come.

Avelo? Maybe

next airline in will be Viva Aerobus though. They already are talking about adding customs in preparation for it.

05-12-2022, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 9easy

We could just fly to BLV more from our current bases. I know, it's a novel concept for mgmt these last few years...

Increase service from large bases? What is this voodoo you speak of?

08-16-2022, 07:26 PM

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BLV did NOT get the SCASD grant that probably would have moved them up the list for a base. So still a waiting game for them. Terminal expansion is still on track for a December or January opening.

08-21-2022, 05:52 AM

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DSM

Hey all, have an R-ATP and approaching 1500TT, mil guy, applying soon. How junior is DSM?

08-21-2022, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MilDriver

Hey all, have an R-ATP and approaching 1500TT, mil guy, applying soon. How junior is DSM?

DSM is junior, but hopefully you’ve done a little research on how seniority works at Allegiant small bases. You’ll move through the ranks as an FO there at a decent rate, but if you’re interested in being a CA you’ll never see good seniority in that base. Once Captains have moved there and settled their family, they aren’t going anywhere and the base isn’t growing. That equals zero career progression. You’ll have to move to a new base somewhere when it opens at some point if you want to gain seniority in the left seat.

08-21-2022, 10:10 AM

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Jim Rockford

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Originally Posted by MilDriver

Hey all, have an R-ATP and approaching 1500TT, mil guy, applying soon. How junior is DSM?

Pretty junior and with attrition the way it is you can upgrade there as well if you desire to in a reasonable amount of time.

08-21-2022, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MilDriver

Hey all, have an R-ATP and approaching 1500TT, mil guy, applying soon. How junior is DSM?

Understand that growth - the way pilots perceive it - has pretty much come to a halt due to staffing. There is evidence to suggest the small base strategy is under review. Something to consider before making life choices based on a domicile like DSM.

08-21-2022, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MilDriver

Hey all, have an R-ATP and approaching 1500TT, mil guy, applying soon. How junior is DSM?

DSM is achievable as a new hire. But as already stated here, I wouldn't base your decision solely on DSM remaining a base in the future. There does seem to be evidence that the small base strategy while only 2 years old is under review. Sources say its not just a pilot problem, but it seems the company may have miscalculated the flight attendant problem in these small bases.

08-21-2022, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tom11011

For the single & flexible type maybe it’s worth considering. If there’s a family, schools, spouse job etc…..legacy domiciles offer far more stability.

08-21-2022, 08:22 PM

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There is zero evidence the small bases are going away. "The small bases are gonna get closed" has been going around since Asheville opened up 7 years ago.. then a dozen more bases opened. The growth now is only limited by FO's. Until FO's have a good reason to stay and possibly move to a new base to upgrade, versus going to DL/AA, there won't be any growth.