Thanks for the replies guys. Good food for thought.

Can anyone answer whether the alleged growth and hiring number by 2020 has any truth to it at all?

No, 20 a month and 50% growth (13XX list) with 150 planes by 2021 is the goal.

Ok that’s what I was after, appreciate the heads up.

Just a headsup OAK has very little flying and is a hard place to make money. It’s great to be on reserve. Also it has only 1 plane and the CA slots are pretty full with locals who aren’t planning on leaving.

Also good info, thanks!

Growth in aircraft but not in pilots. Actual rumors of furloughs and I'm not BS'ing you.

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Before you spread this rumor, make sure you know what you’re talking about. Just because they are reducing the headcount per aircraft does not mean they are going to furlough. Those words were taken out of context. If anything we are growing aircraft and they will slowly gain more airplanes while reducing headcount per aircraft. Stop freaking out.


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While the company's ridiculous stand on the PBS system is going to bite them in the behind, the furlough question is more than a little strange. The last investment presentation clearly demonstrated that the growth in aircraft was going to continue to approx 115 airframes by EOY 2020. The projected staffing numbers were going from about 9.6 crews to 7.8 within the same period. This projection is nothing new...it's merely a different perspective from how the scheduling is going to work and who it affects. The company wants to maximize the number of flights while not having to carry what they consider to be unnecessary overhead...we only are going full blast 6 months out of the year (for now). Realistically, it's a business decision on their part and that it would impact our lives in a negative manner is hardly a surprise, nor could we expect management to care. Who it affects is also not a surprise..basically the senior guys who are cruising in the big bucks are going to have to work more for what they make, the pure reservists will undoubtedly work more, particularly with respect to more rescue flights due to short staffing. Peeps barely above the Mendoza line of pure reserve probably won't see much in the way of change, except hopefully few pure reserve slots in the bigger bases and more mixed lines. The fact that we are about to be short staffed again really isn't the issue...the issue is the egregious non-compliance on the part of the company with regards to getting rid of the solver and finally getting around to honoring seniority appropriately in terms of scheduling.

why don't you apply at Allegiant and see what happens.

If you don't get the job, the decision will be made for you.

United has thousands of pilots and hundreds of planes based just across the BAY! The last system bid placed 45 of 47 new hires in the class into FO spot in SFO. FO's in SFO on NB will be holding lines before 2019 hits!! Just food for thought. :rolleyes: Good Luck with your job search!