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Old 12-30-2019, 11:02 AM
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I have hear a lot of bad things about the maintenance at allegiant Airlines. I know some incidents have happened years ago and I am familiar with the 60 minutes episode on the maintenance at Allegiant Airlines (I will admit I did not watch it all) and I was wanting input from an employee perspective of how the maintenance is at this company. I come from a maintenance back ground myself and I have much respect for the men and women that are A&P mechanics. I have strong desire to possibly fly for this company due to the QOL that it offers. Do you see many things unsafe? Often cancel flights for mechanical issues?

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I am sure that there were MX issues in the past, but I was not here in those days to witness them. There are days that MX still dispatches with MELs that are legal, but operationally illogical. However, those days are becoming more and more rare for me personally. The Airbus has fixed a lot of issues, and the company waking up to the fact that the airplanes usually give you plenty of notice before they hard fail has fixed most of the rest. Allegiant has put a ton of resources into on time performance in the last 2 years. MX is a large component of that improvement.

Could we be more efficient in our MX department? Sure. Do I have any reservations about putting my family in the back? Absolutely not.


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There is another article somewhere showing the airline now has one of the highest completion factors out of US airlines.
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Originally Posted by PreciousCargo View Post
I have hear a lot of bad things about the maintenance at allegiant Airlines. I know some incidents have happened years ago and I am familiar with the 60 minutes episode on the maintenance at Allegiant Airlines (I will admit I did not watch it all) and I was wanting input from an employee perspective of how the maintenance is at this company. I come from a maintenance back ground myself and I have much respect for the men and women that are A&P mechanics. I have strong desire to possibly fly for this company due to the QOL that it offers. Do you see many things unsafe? Often cancel flights for mechanical issues?

Thank you
60 minutes is entertainment disguised as cutting edge journalism. G4 doesn’t have the HR spin doctor machine of other airlines, so we make an easy target. Let’s stick with the facts, we haven’t had any fatalities and/or exploding engines ripping holes in the fuselage. All airbus fleet now. No Max’s in sight.
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I've been here 4+ years, and I've never seen anything I would consider unsafe. I've never felt pushed to do anything unsafe. I've never seen mechanics intentionally cut corners. As said before, retiring the MD80 eliminated most of the issues. The Airbus program was always a different airline. Don't forget, it tattles on you.

I wouldn't fly for an airline I thought was unsafe. I'd absolutely put my family on any of our flights. In fact, the scrutiny we have gotten (not all of it fair) has probably made us a lot safer than many airlines.

What scares me is some of the regionals with a 2000hr PIC and a 1000hr SIC flying a CRJ200 or ERJ145 held together with speed tape and deferral stickers in crap weather and complex airspace. But nobody's talking about that because I guess Allegiant is an easy target.
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Thank you all for taking your time to respond. I figure if there was an issue with how something like maintenance and I asked about it here I would get some honest feed back. Thank you!
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I have hear a lot of bad things about the maintenance at allegiant Airlines. I know some incidents have happened years ago and I am familiar with the 60 minutes episode on the maintenance at Allegiant Airlines (I will admit I did not watch it all) and I was wanting input from an employee perspective of how the maintenance is at this company. I come from a maintenance back ground myself and I have much respect for the men and women that are A&P mechanics. I have strong desire to possibly fly for this company due to the QOL that it offers. Do you see many things unsafe? Often cancel flights for mechanical issues?

Thank you
Things are good. I fly my friends and family on us without a second thought.

The other day, a mechanic told me we were the first customer for this new Airbus predictive MX system -
https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/pres...y-adopter.html
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Originally Posted by FreshWater View Post
60 minutes is entertainment disguised as cutting edge journalism. G4 doesn’t have the HR spin doctor machine of other airlines, so we make an easy target. Let’s stick with the facts, we haven’t had any fatalities and/or exploding engines ripping holes in the fuselage. All airbus fleet now. No Max’s in sight.
While talking about facts...

SWA had nothing to do with the engine explosion, it was design and mfg. weakness.

No US airline had any max fatalities or accidents.

Airbus has had issues too, don't think you're immune because you fly a bus. It's sure easy to fly (I'm lazy, I like easy), but when things go wrong it can get weird.

G4 most certainly did have a bad era. There was a whole lot of smoke and everybody in the industry new it long before 60 minutes cashed in. You may have relied on luck to not kill anyone, but that would have run out eventually.

As a pilot, I wouldn't necessarily re-write history just yet... you might doom yourself to repeat it someday (unless you've had a complete flush of management and a change in corporate philosophy). Your bosses didn't do the right thing because it was the right thing, they did it because they got caught.
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While talking about facts...

SWA had nothing to do with the engine explosion, it was design and mfg. weakness.

No US airline had any max fatalities or accidents.

Airbus has had issues too, don't think you're immune because you fly a bus. It's sure easy to fly (I'm lazy, I like easy), but when things go wrong it can get weird.

G4 most certainly did have a bad era. There was a whole lot of smoke and everybody in the industry new it long before 60 minutes cashed in. You may have relied on luck to not kill anyone, but that would have run out eventually.

As a pilot, I wouldn't necessarily re-write history just yet... you might doom yourself to repeat it someday (unless you've had a complete flush of management and a change in corporate philosophy). Your bosses didn't do the right thing because it was the right thing, they did it because they got caught.
Rick, read this article in its entirety. It’s great for adding a bit of complication to the whole “safety” thing.

https://visualapproach.io/is-allegia...s-conclusions/
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
While talking about facts...

SWA had nothing to do with the engine explosion, it was design and mfg. weakness.

No US airline had any max fatalities or accidents.

Airbus has had issues too, don't think you're immune because you fly a bus. It's sure easy to fly (I'm lazy, I like easy), but when things go wrong it can get weird.

G4 most certainly did have a bad era. There was a whole lot of smoke and everybody in the industry new it long before 60 minutes cashed in. You may have relied on luck to not kill anyone, but that would have run out eventually.

As a pilot, I wouldn't necessarily re-write history just yet... you might doom yourself to repeat it someday (unless you've had a complete flush of management and a change in corporate philosophy). Your bosses didn't do the right thing because it was the right thing, they did it because they got caught.
Wow. Didn't think I'd see the moderators trolling on this site.

Glad to know I fly for a crappy airline that only hasn't killed anyone by pure luck. How's the view from up on that high horse over there? I'm sure your commentary about allegiant is from your experience working at SkyWest and Alaska. I'm sure that entitles you to shoot down our first hand accounts of the safety issues here being massively overblown. Yes, by all means thanks for your input that we work for a lucky, unsafe airline. I'm sure that will steer more business to your airline.

I'd love to see some data on how many issues Delta and American had with MD series aircraft until the end, but wait, they have a PR machine that tamps them down and thousands of other flights on other types to dilute the numbers. I suspect that if Delta was an all MD airline, their numbers would be very close to ours were. But by all means, tell us again how lucky and unsafe we are/were. I seem to recall an MD incident in the Pacific on your exalted airline that didn't end up so lucky too. Don't throw that stone just yet.

Oh, by the way, the OP said "from employee perspective", so extra points for your stellar reading & comprehension since you're not an employee and clearly have little perspective.
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