tom11011

yeah that’s what I said, ‘do whatever you want’. Remember when I said it was a personal decision too? You have selective hearing. And quit whining and back pedaling you sound ridiculous.

KC135

I was referring to the DAL 1 year ATL 320 upgrades. Not working to hard with a modest 85 hours credit with 16+ days off. Year 2 pay will be $309/hr plus 17% DC and with 10%+ profit sharing you’re there at the 400k. Obviously you wouldn’t want to plan on that but if you have 20+ years left total comp will be much higher with more days off. UAL and AA will follow with their TA’s soon.

tailendcharlie

Look at the year end salary survey & then consider most of these pilots were under “old” rates that, seemingly for everybody but Allegiant, will soon be higher. You won’t have to be senior or “kill yourself” to realistically hit the 400k mark.

TangoIndiaMike1

you’d have to be able to upgrade at allegiant to hit those which you can’t upgrade right now.

HomeEveryNight

Even if you do upgrade, with Delta about to vote a year 6 FO there still makes more than a year 6 captain here.

CircleK

Year ten FO at the new delta rates makes 5 bucks more an hour then a G4 CA. It’s sad really.

Ta497

The contract is so bad. I got into a car accident in the company rental car. The company sent me to workman's comp. My personal car insurance went up. The chief pilots won't do anything to help you. They won't even respond to your 2 week notice. That place is a dump. Don't go there! Regionals are better!

Be Realistic

I've heard horror stories first hand about how you get zero from the company for an OJI. Additionally you get nothing from long term disability or short term disability. OJI is not covered by our policies. This is so wrong on many levels. To think, you are doing your job, driving to another base for training or work in a rental car provided by the company, someone rear-ends you, and you are out of work, receiving less than $1000/week for however many weeks. It could be 12 months or more. If you think $1000/week is a lot, remember that you will be on cobra soon which costs over $2000 for a family of 4 (I have been told this - not experienced it first hand), and if you take the cobra and tax out of the benefit you would be left with about $1500 to pay your health insurance deductibles, mortgage/rent, food etc. This would also apply if you slipped on ice doing your walk around. Not what we should expect of an outfit flying Airbus.

On a plus note, they have finally changed the chiefs and with the exception of 2 of them, its all new management in town. The new appointees are very popular with the pilot group and are already making changes for the better, but there is only so much they can do with the terrible management attitude still coming from Vegas.

Still better to stay at a regional if you have QOL there. You could be giving up something fairly reasonable for something which is very unreasonable in this current time, and getting worse as time goes on.

TangoIndiaMike1

didn’t the union have to make a separate pilot assistance fund due to the one that pilots paid into for the company couldn’t be used when hardships happened?

captnate702

I think it’s 100% financed by pilot donations. I’m pretty no union funds/dues are used to finance the pilots only hardship fund. I think the Union encouraged it, but do not financially support it in any way.

Sucks that pilots with hardships cannot get help from company or the union - especially when both entities love to tout their financials.