Originally Posted by jimmy8 (Post 3831387)

somewhat agree. The union had a chance to hit a “home run” contract and have us be teamsters forever, but at this point I don’t see us staying teamsters unless it is a phenomenal contract… and even then I don’t know if I see it. Just more false promises that things will change while nothing has changed besides the name of the almighty dictator. I do think we have more leverage than some pilots think but we should’ve had a contract 6 months ago regardless of everything that happened. I’m sure Owen’s and crew were fine and GU just didn’t like that he wasn’t in power. I know for a fact they did not pass a TA requiring us to download apps and have the company track us, it was literally the opposite, that’s just this new regime spreading false nonsense to make them look like superstars.

Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3831555)

You guys are hilarious. They just passed the hard sections of the contract for the first time just a few weeks ago.

Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 3831572)

perfect!! Should have a contract in 2027 then if we are just starting to the hard part of the contract!!

That’s exactly what we want to hear. You are so tone deaf Tom. Go check on your boy AR and see if he’s okay.

Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3831716)

If your super good maybe you’ll get a Christmas contract.

Originally Posted by skyvanman (Post 3831545)

Never sucked up or drank the Kool-aid to AR but man you sure do love JR and GU's brew. Chapi you've contradicted yourself several times in the last two pages of this thread alone, be better brother. My favorite thing you just said was this though "Ranting and talking sh***** on here accomplashes nothing, and it's almost a corwardly way to do things." Have you read your own comments on your WhatsApp group? Your Facebook group? H*ll, even here. In your own words, you just admitted that you may be the biggest coward around lately by the hand of your own actions.

We've flown together quite a bit once upon a time and I like to think of you as a friend, but man... I think it's time to take a serious look in the mirror. This whole blind-loyalty denial thing you've been going for the last little bit isn't looking good.

Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 3831757)

I’m honestly impressed with your ability to just happily swallow whatever gets thrown in your face.

But you are so clueless that your arguments try to defend the Union are actually just proving how inept and poor our representation is.

If I’m GU I’d either have you muzzled or removed from the union so you stop doing so much damage. I mean you seriously said, without any irony, “guys don’t stress, I know it’s been 3+ years of negotiations but our union just passed the hard sections of the contract so we should be getting a legacy contract soon…”

I still chuckle at how often you put your foot in your mouth. You should write for the onion or the Babylon bee.

Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3832025)

Are there any items worth holding out for in your opinion? How would you handle scope? Just let it go? Don’t change it?

Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3832025)

Are there any items worth holding out for in your opinion? How would you handle scope? Just let it go? Don’t change it?

Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 3832057)

honestly scope is boogeyman. What would you change about scope? Because nothing has happened with scope that has impacted a single Allegiant pilot. I know GU is out there telling us without massive changes to scope then Mexican pilots are gonna fly all of our routes but that’s just lies. It’s illegal, will never happen.

So I think scope is just a boogeyman that ibt uses to get scare so we run into their arms. The alter ego protections are already there which is the biggest protection because that’s exactly what MG would do if he could.

But I wanna know from GU what horrible things management has done to us because of the pathetic scope that he got us last time?