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Shiek Yiboudi 10-08-2010 06:01 PM
Originally Posted by captnmajic (Post 881915)
Any of this reminiscent of a blast from the past know as ValuJet? At the current rate of incidents I give them 12-18 months before they have a fatal accident that results in the deaths of many people. Hopefully the FAA is watching and will take necessary steps to break the accident chain.
What are you smoking? I think we have a winner for the worst post in APC! What a terrible thing to say. Like MD80driver said, it was an unfortunate event that happened to a great guy. It's not like he landed on taxiway at one of the busiest airports in the world.

Fishfreighter 10-08-2010 06:34 PM
Yeah, tailpipe fires happen on every airline's airplanes everyday. Looks like the media is singling out Allegiant for some unknown reason.

forgot to bid 10-08-2010 06:46 PM
Originally Posted by Shiek Yiboudi (Post 882076)
Like MD80driver said, it was an unfortunate event that happened to a great guy. It's not like he landed on taxiway at one of the busiest airports in the world.
Since you brought it up, would you care to explain what happened to the 767 that landed on taxiway M in ATL? Care to explain what the Feds figured out reproducing the event? Care to talk about where those pilots are now? :rolleyes:

talk about comparing apples and oranges.

Shiek Yiboudi 10-08-2010 07:04 PM
Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 882093)
Since you brought it up, would you care to explain what happened to the 767 that landed on taxiway M in ATL? Care to explain what the Feds figured out reproducing the event? Care to talk about where those pilots are now? :rolleyes:

talk about comparing apples and oranges.
No I don't, I don't know anything about it. Just like the guy I was responding to doesn't know anything about this situation, or any other Allegiant operational activities.

captnmajic 10-08-2010 07:18 PM
Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 881990)
.....Back on topic, didn't Allegiant damn near kill 135 people a week ago rotating off the end of a 6500' runway with a calculated TO distance of something like 6525'?

Yep, that's what I'm talking about. Only a matter of time before something real ugly happens.

BeenThere 10-08-2010 08:38 PM
ETOPS on an MD80? What for?

cfiguy11 10-08-2010 09:00 PM
Originally Posted by BeenThere (Post 882146)
ETOPS on an MD80? What for?
I think they're getting 75's for hawaii runs or something. There was a picture posted somewhere of one of them all painted up.

cheers1977 10-08-2010 09:56 PM
Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 881990)
Agreed, what was the company that loaded the cargo, Sabre Tech? IIRC they were found at fault. The accident just put ValueJet under the microscope and then things began to surface.

Back on topic, didn't Allegiant damn near kill 135 people a week ago rotating off the end of a 6500' runway with a calculated TO distance of something like 6525'?

The calculated TO distance wasn't 6525' for the record....

Shiek Yiboudi 10-09-2010 03:43 AM
Originally Posted by captnmajic (Post 882111)
Yep, that's what I'm talking about. Only a matter of time before something real ugly happens.
You didn't bring that up, just vague predictions. What other loss of life situations did you see? You should work for the FAA, they could shutdown operations of airlines that you think are going to crash.

MD80driver2day 10-09-2010 06:46 AM
Originally Posted by captnmajic (Post 882111)
Yep, that's what I'm talking about. Only a matter of time before something real ugly happens.
Quite possible, but not for the reasons you're alluding to.


Originally Posted by cheers1977 (Post 882165)
The calculated TO distance wasn't 6525' for the record....
Exactly.... Obviously these guys here pull things out of their butts without facts in hand. The runway was 6000 feet and they needed all of it +, clearly the ATOGS said 6025... :rolleyes:

If you want a real discussion here, let's talk about complacency. It's not a problem specific to Allegiant and it will cause fatalities again.


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