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Old 10-08-2010, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by captnmajic View Post
Any of this reminiscent of a blast from the past know as ValuJet? At the current rate of incidents I give them 12-18 months before they have a fatal accident that results in the deaths of many people. Hopefully the FAA is watching and will take necessary steps to break the accident chain.
What are you smoking? I think we have a winner for the worst post in APC! What a terrible thing to say. Like MD80driver said, it was an unfortunate event that happened to a great guy. It's not like he landed on taxiway at one of the busiest airports in the world.
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Old 10-08-2010, 06:34 PM
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Yeah, tailpipe fires happen on every airline's airplanes everyday. Looks like the media is singling out Allegiant for some unknown reason.
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Old 10-08-2010, 06:46 PM
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Like MD80driver said, it was an unfortunate event that happened to a great guy. It's not like he landed on taxiway at one of the busiest airports in the world.
Since you brought it up, would you care to explain what happened to the 767 that landed on taxiway M in ATL? Care to explain what the Feds figured out reproducing the event? Care to talk about where those pilots are now?

talk about comparing apples and oranges.
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Old 10-08-2010, 07:04 PM
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Since you brought it up, would you care to explain what happened to the 767 that landed on taxiway M in ATL? Care to explain what the Feds figured out reproducing the event? Care to talk about where those pilots are now?

talk about comparing apples and oranges.
No I don't, I don't know anything about it. Just like the guy I was responding to doesn't know anything about this situation, or any other Allegiant operational activities.
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Old 10-08-2010, 07:18 PM
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.....Back on topic, didn't Allegiant damn near kill 135 people a week ago rotating off the end of a 6500' runway with a calculated TO distance of something like 6525'?

Yep, that's what I'm talking about. Only a matter of time before something real ugly happens.
 
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ETOPS on an MD80? What for?
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Old 10-08-2010, 09:00 PM
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ETOPS on an MD80? What for?
I think they're getting 75's for hawaii runs or something. There was a picture posted somewhere of one of them all painted up.
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Old 10-08-2010, 09:56 PM
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Agreed, what was the company that loaded the cargo, Sabre Tech? IIRC they were found at fault. The accident just put ValueJet under the microscope and then things began to surface.

Back on topic, didn't Allegiant damn near kill 135 people a week ago rotating off the end of a 6500' runway with a calculated TO distance of something like 6525'?

The calculated TO distance wasn't 6525' for the record....

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Old 10-09-2010, 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by captnmajic View Post
Yep, that's what I'm talking about. Only a matter of time before something real ugly happens.
You didn't bring that up, just vague predictions. What other loss of life situations did you see? You should work for the FAA, they could shutdown operations of airlines that you think are going to crash.
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Old 10-09-2010, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by captnmajic View Post
Yep, that's what I'm talking about. Only a matter of time before something real ugly happens.
Quite possible, but not for the reasons you're alluding to.


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The calculated TO distance wasn't 6525' for the record....
Exactly.... Obviously these guys here pull things out of their butts without facts in hand. The runway was 6000 feet and they needed all of it +, clearly the ATOGS said 6025...

If you want a real discussion here, let's talk about complacency. It's not a problem specific to Allegiant and it will cause fatalities again.
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