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INXS 03-02-2014 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dawgdriver (Post 1593460)
Exactly. Allegiant is a travel company that looks to MAXIMIZE profits at all cost, regardless of the impact to those that generate the profit. Our aloof management doesn't realize the long term effect of what they are doing and image they portray with their actions. Attrition and no show's to new hire class, the few exceptions being those deemed un-hirable at other airlines.

Imagine for a moment what a new hire can expect if Allegiant's most uber senior pilots are only getting 11 days off per month. Even the crappiest regionals would NEVER do that. Throw in 10 days of reserve for some of those top 10% guys and you begin to feel the bitter slap of resentment. These are the peeps that shouldered the pain and risk of starting this company and were promised the moon by our CEO. Allegiant's nasty habit of closing the bases (LAX, DEN, GRR, IFP, RNO, UTA) that many of these pilots relocated to 'so they could be home every night', has forced these pilots to commute. Enter Merlot PBS, a tremendously unpopular scheme designed to put EVEN more money in management's pocket by 'streamlining' schedules and these guys are screwed. Our management disregarded our argument that PBS violated our work rules, and arrogantly rushed the implementation of this cheap software. Months of anger and frustration accompanied with management's 'sincere' apologies, insulting excuses and excruciating incompetence, and the company still insists it has the right and it's what's in our best interest. The pilots have since filed an injunction against Allegiant in court, it's up to the lawyers now.

Folks are leaving, looking for companies that value and respect their employees and do what's necessary to keep them. Our pilots have suffered the hits to pay and QOL ever since new management was hired and the bean counters were cut loose. Lining executives' pockets by screwing over employees is a short term agenda with severe implications in the long term. Hopefully the approaching cliff will bring in much needed change and new management.

VERY well said. It's full-on ATP protection mode.

Uncle Wurmy 03-02-2014 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by INXS (Post 1593507)
VERY well said. It's full-on ATP protection mode.

Word! Totally!

labbats 03-02-2014 12:55 PM

I wish I could copy that and have it read aloud in each and every recurrent class. Well said.

Packrat 03-02-2014 01:03 PM

The bottom line is...it doesn't matter. Allegiant is a classic stepping stone operation. For every opening there will be 500 Regional pilots chomping at the bit to move up to "big iron."

All they'll be looking for is that 757/A320/DC-9 type rating and enough hours to move on to a Mainline airline. As long as the Company keeps generating the kind of profits they do, the bean counters won't give a fig about your pay, benefits or quality of life.

YOU, via your contract, need to improve these things. Grieve EVERYTHING that violates your current contract and be ready and willing to strike for the changes you need in your next contract. In this century at least, pilots have been unwilling to do the latter and the results are:

http://www.alpa.org/portals/alpa/pre...-pay-chart.pdf

Uncle Wurmy 03-02-2014 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 1593580)

YOU, via your contract, need to improve these things. Grieve EVERYTHING that violates your current contract and be ready and willing to strike for the changes you need in your next contract. In this century at least, pilots have been unwilling to do the latter and the results are:

http://www.alpa.org/portals/alpa/pre...-pay-chart.pdf

I don't think Allegiant pilots will be unwilling...quite the opposite. Even the people who were hesitant about voting in a union in the first place now seem to be chomping at the bit.

Packrat 03-02-2014 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Wurmy (Post 1593624)
I don't think Allegiant pilots will be unwilling...quite the opposite. Even the people who were hesitant about voting in a union in the first place now seem to be chomping at the bit.

That's good. You know the old saying:

"Companies with Unions deserve them."

dawgdriver 03-03-2014 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 1593711)
That's good. You know the old saying:

"Companies with Unions deserve them."

Very accurate. Here's another: Companies fail due to poor management.

We were a content group of non-union employees 4 years ago before new management rolled in and took everything from us. Suddenly we were making less while working more, with less support and less resources. Communication slowly went from one-sided propaganda using novel terms such as 'unsustainable', 'unscalable', legacy-creep', etc. to what is now virtually nonexistent.

Suddenly 3 unions magically appeared. Go figure

Xbone 03-03-2014 09:41 AM

I look forward to two things now, since quality of life and good pay are no longer realistic. A better job, or imagining the look on MG and AL’s face when the NMB issues the results of the strike vote.

CLMP 03-03-2014 10:04 AM

Prospective Allegiant pilots need to take heed of all that is being written here. It is 100% accurate.

For a second, think about your worst nightmare management team. If you had to pick management from some of the worst airlines in history with respect to employee relations, who would you select? A President who cut his teeth at an investment firm started by Frank Lorenzo? How about a VP of Ops and a DO from the "old" Northwest? Hey, for the hell of it, throw in a Director of Safety and countless crew schedulers from Mesa. Is your skin crawling yet?

As mentioned above, the inmates are running the asylum here. When the Director of FP&A (Financial Planning and Analysis) is put in charge of the new crew scheduling software, you know that it's all over for the pilots. We will NEVER get a new contract without giving these people a "time out". The past 15 years (and especially the last 5) have been a drunken orgy of dirt-cheap planes, employees being paid scraps, a stock price that defies the laws of economics, and an FAA POI who looked the other way on the whole operation. The party's over and it's time to pay the bar tab.

Packrat 03-03-2014 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CLMP (Post 1594203)
Prospective Allegiant pilots need to take heed of all that is being written here. It is 100% accurate.

That said, you and I BOTH know you will have plenty of applicants, especially from retired military pilots who have no clue about how the airlines work.


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