Is Allegiant currently hiring pilots
 

I checked website and they were not advertising pilot positions. I understand it maybe not the best company right now to fly for, but i have no college degree, live about 20 minutes from SFB, and do not want to commute. I currently fly charter and basically have no schedule with minimum days off.

I would watch the website close, It is sounding like they may interview soon again.

Thanks, will do. I understand the Florida bases are usually easy to hold?

Yes Florida is Very junior, and as a new hire you would go to florida.

Any info on flight time required to apply ? Competitive times ?

Can you fog a mirror? ......... Youre in!

But only if you have strong internal recs.
As I hear from recent interviewees...

3000 hours I believe is the published minimums. It also helps a lot to have an internal rec. Should be hiring a bunch this year.

I have 3500+ total with 1500+ heavy jet PIC and 2000+ total PIC and I received a TBNT e-mail from Allegiant about two weeks after my application was submitted. Who knows what they're looking for??

Don't expect any increase in QOL in this area if you're hired. Also, plot the fastest route from your house to PGD.

I see the requirement for internal recommendations starting to fade as more and more pilots run out of people they want to recommend. 3000 TT was the published min but several recent new hires have had less. Keep in mind, if hired you will be entering this company during the darkest period in its history.

Also keep in mind as the NLRB timeline unfolds there's strong a possibility you are eventually going to be walking a picket line.

New hires will very quickly have to stand and be counted. The strike vote is coming. My guess; Probably no later than the end of this year.

The ONLY way to get an interview is to have someone walk your stuff in.

Go get a college degree. In anything. Your wallet will thank you later for the short time you invest in it and you'll have more opportunities.

Word! These are some of the best case scenarios. Even if everything was worked out between the company and pilots tomorrow, there are still some operational issues that could potentially affect the long term viability of the company IMHO.

There's a reason why you have no schedule with minimum days off. Stop trying to take short cuts in life. You're not only selling yourself out but, you are selling the industry out. Next thing you know you're going to see shiny new 737's thrown at kids with GED's who are willing to fly for minimum wage. Go to college.

Just because someone doesn't have a college degree doesn't mean they don't deserve to fly for a major airline. Why don't you ask Richard Branson, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates etc how their "short cuts in life" worked out for them?

The big colleges make a lot of money convincing people they need an expensive degree to be successful in life. Not necessarily a necessity in this industry anymore.

Thousands of flight hours with hundreds of close calls under your belt is worth more than a degree in social sociology, and can't be earned online.

I understand that some people need to rationalize to justify their monthly payment to Sallie Mae for that precious piece of paper.

Under the current conditions why would anyone WANT to work for Allegiant? My prediction: within 5 years there will be such an attrition rate to the Majors that Allegiant will be paying signing bonuses in a last ditch effort to stay afloat due to staffing issues just as some of the Regionals are doing now.

Ironically major gains in pay & work rules as a result of a strike may be the only thing that saves Allegiant in the end.

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Very true. When this all began, most of the pilots were of the mindset of working with management to obtain a new contract and that a strike was the last thing we wanted to do. Unfortunately, it has degenerated to the point where a strike seems to be the only option. We are dealing with a management team that won't agree that the sun sets in the west, let alone to even the most basic contract terms that we have offered. Now, most pilots are ready (financially and otherwise). Some are like rodeo bulls pawing at the dirt just waiting for that NMB gate to open. The company is making money (for now) but is not doing the right things with it. It is being used for stock buybacks and dividends instead of going towards a long-term viable business. As recently as last year, our CEO called us a "cash machine" to the local press. This is very telling as to the general attitude of the powers that be.

How do you figure the end of the year? We're what 18.. 19 months into this thing with the IBT. We're going to take a strike vote after 2+ years? Really?? What for? There is no way we'll be released to strike in such a short time.

The strike vote is years away.

Not necessarily. We are pushing to get this thing done sooner than later. I'm guessing mediation by summer at the latest. The NMB is already familiar with the company and their attitude and is not impressed from what I hear. It's not that much of a stretch to see us at an impasse by years end and a strike vote to go along with it.

My experience is once you enter mediation you still have a long road ahead - 2-3 years probably.

If things continue down their current path, I have a difficult time imagining what this company will be like in 2-3 years.

BINGO! If things don't change (path) they may not be around in the near future. This is serious business & the pilots are going to have to take this company back -we all know it could be a solid place to hang one's hat.

Once things get to mediation, it will happen either really quickly or really slowly. I would imagine the NMB is familiar with our management, and their tactics, thanks to the flight attendants. No one knows how the NMB will react.

It could drag out while they try to reach a deal, or they could just say it's pointless, and offer a release. We'll have to wait and see.

The flight attendants and their dragged out process could indeed help us out. From some of the stories I’ve heard about how g4 management has treated the whole process, in full view of the mediator. With their usual disdain for unionization and compromise, which goes down to their “DNA”.

That email was merely and attempt to manage expectations. They are trying to pick the weak ones off the herd. They know there are a few who will take a $20/hr pay rate increase and go away (even though history has shown that most gains have been erased in work rule "interpretations"). They view us as twenty-something's who live in an apartment with our only possessions being a tote and futon, which is why they TDY with reckless abandon. They think we are kids who will do anything to fly a big jet and that our only goal is the coveted Left Seat. They don't know us at all and they don't care enough to learn. But learn they will....

This isn't the company that everyone thinks it is. You think you will get hired and get based at home, be home every night with the family? Think again! You could move to where they "Base" you and never see home. TDY is the solution to their problems. Commutability is non-existent with the new PBS. I would strongly encourage anyone wanting to work here to do research.

This is a great airline if you live in Florida, can comfortably live on $2000/mo, don't need more than one day off at a time and want to be an FO for 8-10 years. :)

I don't care for Allegiant, and have had a few JS who have awful things to say about them...

But honestly, if I lived in the Orlando area (or anywhere close to an Allegiant base) I'd consider them an option...

Being able to live near work, especially if you don't have to move to a base and can stay near family/friends is priceless.... I don't care for being home every night, rather enjoy overnighting, but having moved around the country I can say it sucks when it involves being away from parents, grandparents, friends and extended family.

If being home every night is the only reason for wanting to go to Allegiant, then you might want to think twice. There have been rumblings about that changing. I expect as Mexico and S. America and the the Caribbean open up, it will be a more traditional several day schedule.

It's funny how many of the new hires say the same thing, and before they are even out of new hire ground school they are already complaining about the same things the other pilots have been complaining about on here and other message boards. They always think their experience is going to be different, but it's not.

I think it is funny how pilots - obviously a traditional traveling job - often complain about the travel aspects of the job. It is like a heart surgeon complaining about blood. Sure there are pilot job that require very little traveling. They are the MINORITY. If you want to be a pilot - and especially an airline pilot - then you ought to know going into the job that you are going to be traveling. If you want to spend every night in home in your own bed - look elsewhere and fly for fun!

Very well said. G4 tries to sell the hell out this concept. To distract from the crap schedule practices, constant lack of staffing, running the airline like its going out of business, sub-standard pay, etc.

I am amused by pilots who pack nothing more than a lunch sack. This expectation creates a “get-home” itis mind set. Wonder how are maintenance write-ups look in comparison to more traditional airline schedules? Wonder if the faa has taken notice? I am sure they have, or will.

This is an unrealistic ideal at g4, given our maintenance and operational control, or lack thereof. If being in your own bed every night is that important, then you got into the wrong business.

I was talking about the pilot professional in very general terms of course, but did Allegiant schedule this way in the past that a pilot/crew could actually expect to be home most nights? Was it one of those rare flying (especially P121 flying jobs) where you could reasonably expect to only do day turns/trips or was that always a slight of hand scheduling practice that never quite panned out?

Allegiant has been nothing but out and back day trips in the 7 years I've been here.

Is it sustainable? I think the majority of the trips will continue like this, while some new stuff may have overnights similar to what the 757 guys see.

Anyone considering work at Allegiant should understand the hornet's nest they are walking into and the miserable conditions a reserve FO can expect. Training department has been shutdown, simulators are a mess, fleets have been grounded. Some of our August 2013 class trainees have still not been signed off. It's become a fly-by-night operation where trainees can easily get ground up and their careers shortened. When you hit the line, you can look forward to dealing with the inexperienced schedulers and dispatchers looking to get you violated. Operationally speaking, we are a disaster and at our lowest point in our 15 year history. I would wait until a contract is signed and see if things improve. Even then I'm not sure how much better it will get because management seems he11 bent on being at war with its employees. Conditions won't improve until changes take place at the top. Management is doing pretty much whatever they want with work rules and schedules and the accountants are running the company as if it was bankrupt. Sad part is that Allegiant used to be a great company with incredible potential. New management came in, got ambitious and greedy and went after every possible dime they could save. Pilots are a big ticket and bullseye for accountants, especially when they have no experience in the industry.

There are much better alternatives out there. I would wait for an airline that was run by people who know what they are doing instead of a travel company run by a pack of venture capitalists.

How often are people TDY'ed away from a home base and then fly the out and backs? No overnights - but not at home. Is that a norm or soething that we have only recently heard about on these boards?

I think you make a good point. Staying in hotels has always been kind of a fun adventure for me since my family couldn't afford them when I was growing up. On the flip-side however, is the way schedules have changed and worsened. For those of us who have been in the business long enough, expecting 15+ days off a month was the standard for making up for time away from home. Unfortunately having say 12 off or less wears on a person over the years. You start to see the benefits normal people have with weekends and holidays off, compounded by the realization that you don't have many more days off than them - it's a tough reality.