From what I understand, this last round of classes will be done by early May. This bunch will probably be the bulk of the myr tdy’s.

How likely is it for a new hire to get LAS right out of training? Is every new hire getting the MD80?

LAS is highly unlikely. Very senior and no growth there presently. FWIK most if not all newhires are initially being trained on the 80.

I’m not sure if any of the new hires have, or are going to the airbus out of training. But, it does go pretty junior in the florida bases. Zero chance of LAS as a new hire. A new hire will go straight to one of the florida bases. You wont know which florida base until some time after ground training. And there you will sit for quite some time.

Will not happen anytime soon. New hires will be in florida but would have a chance at the Air Bus but most likely MD80

Right now in order to get LAS with sufficient seniority to be safe from TDY you're looking at around 3 years....

If you are based in Florida are you expected to fly out of all 3 bases? Where is the best location to live when based in Florida? Also what are the typical schedules like; start, end times, normal days of the week off? If you are TDY is it just for a month at a time or is it more? Just trying to get a better picture. I have read this entire forum and understand what is going on, just looking for everyday life as a new hire! Thanks in advance

As a new hire on reserve, you will be sent to all Florida bases. You will be expected to drive yourself in a rental car all around the state. On some occasions, you will airlined out to meet charter flights in need of a pilot, to pick up planes from maintenance, and various other situations. You can also expect to do something on every reserve day.

There are no "normal" days off. SFB flies almost every day. Other bases don't. However, your days off will typically be Tuesday, Wednesday, and Saturday. Unless you are really senior, and most of the time not even then either, your schedule will not be commutable. Reserve is also not commutable because they are constantly changing what time you are on reserve at. Unless they assign you a trip prior to your reserve day, there is a 90 minute reserve call out. It typically turns in to a 16 hour day, or whatever the FAR max would be.

As a newhire, you WILL be based in Florida. Right now, the Florida bases are so short staffed that you are not normally TDY'ed out of the state. However, they just announced a four month long TDY to Myrtle Beach, which I assume will be assigned to the bottom FO's and CA's. They have also sent pilots TDY from SFB to PIE and PGD, but that hasn't happened as much as the West Coast guys being forced to do it.

If by some chance you were able to hold a West Coast base as a newhire, expect to be TDY to one of the Florida bases for 6-10 months of the year. Some guys only got stuck with it a couple months straight. Others got it for 9-10 months straight.

They have also assigned some newhires to the Airbus. I assume they are the most senior of the class, but I don't know that. Right now, with all the problems in the training department, new hire training is lasting six months, or more in some cases.

I understand that even the best places are a little disorganized. But G4s training is extremely haphazard. It should be called the testing department. Because that’s what they are best at. You’re like a leaf on a raging river when it comes to training at G4.

After reading all the mess that seems to be going on this seems like the wrong question but would someone currently residing in FL near PIE and SFB have a better chance of getting hired if mins are met? Would they even factor that in? The fact that I could sit reserve for almost all the FL bases is intriguing.

Where is new hire training being done at? There is no hotel for training?

Yes, intriguing. You should be aware that even the Florida bases will start to bear tdy’s. I would imagine if you meet the mins you’re good. I’m guessing, but I don’t think you would even need a recommendation from within.

Most of the training is in vegas. No hotel for training.

Calls have been going out last few days for phone interviews. That's a new thing.

C'mon guys, let's see your "happy dance"!

<will the next person reading this thread please wipe up the sarcasm that is dripping off this post?!>

Ok back to the orgin of the thread, Is Allegiant currently hiring? I've been to the careers website and it didn't show a current open pilot link on the all jobs website.

I don't know if there is hiring right now, but I know it should be happening soon. They need to hire A LOT. Unless something has changed, it's pretty hard to get an interview without an internal recommendation.

If he's hot for this place. Dude, just go to Las Vegas hq and ask for the cp. I dont think he would turn you away.

They are currently hiring but they only open the window every so often. Lately seems like every few months. They're currently interviewing. I'll try to post if I hear it's opening.

Thanks for the response.

What does a current week look like at Allegiant? Start times and end times for your days. Typical days off especially for new hires. How long to hold a line in FLL, and how long to get a west coast base? Thanks.

There are no "normal" weeks anymore with this PBS they shoved down our throats. Depending on the base, you are more than likely to get Tuesday, Wednesday, and Saturday off. Reserve typically starts at either 0400, 0600, 1000, or 1200, although CS normally changes it everyday regardless of what you bid.

Holding a line in FLL as an FO is easy, or used to be. In the past, there were no FO reserves, so all the FO's held a line. I don't know what they are doing because of PBS. We can't see any other pilot schedules now, so someone familiar with that base would have to tell you what it's like.

Getting out West really depends on how many either get hired or quit. Depending on where you want to go, I would say a year minimum right now.

The window is open now.

The bid results came out with the newest upgrades, and the movement on the fo side. Here is the most junior person (FO only) for each base hire date. According to the seniority list the most junior pilot was hired 1/6/2014.

LAS- 1/6/2014
IWA- 1/4/2012
BLI- 11/9/2012
OAK- 4/29/2010
ENV- 11/9/2012
FLL- 1/6/2014
PIE- 1/6/2014
SFB- 1/6/2014
PGD- 1/6/2014

Hope this helps, for those who want to come to Allegiant.

When was the most junior captain hired?

Per the award, most junior captain was hired 12/17/2009, base of PIE.

Very helpful, thanks for the post. I'm not to sure what's going to happen with the company but there are 2 or 3 bases that went to new hires in January that I could sit reserve at home. That is appealing.

I put my app in today. I live near Seattle, how senior is BLI?

BLI is a very small and most of the time very hard to get. CA side very very long wait most pilots that are there live there and are not going anywhere anytime soon likely not tell retirement which is a long way off for all. FO side bounces around some due to pilots leaving to upgrade. Just happened 3 pilots left. Only way to get is if people decide to leave BLI for upgrade. I think until this last upgrade Bellingham had the same group of pilots for three years both seats.

Two things...

BLI is likely going to shrink per comments by management in a recent ground school. OAK is a 50/50 shot to stay open.

Don't apply here because you live anywhere other than Florida. The West coast bases of IWA and LAS are going to be here for the long haul, but they are very stagnant and you'll likely wait years before you can hold a line there. BLI and OAK may or may not stay open in 5 years.

Also, the upgrade time just released is very misleading. Many FOs could have held it but the current state of affairs here made most pass it up. If you could see the seniority list toward the bottom of the CA list you'd see whole blocks of FOs who just don't want to deal with the madness of being junior at this company.

Edit: To illustrate my point there were 12 upgrades. The most junior CA before this bid was #207 out of 415.
The most junior CA on this bid is #257.

Thanks for all the good info guys. Are they still focusing almost exclusively on applicants with internal recs?

I heard the jr guy awarded LAS was awarded in error. So the jr LAS guy would actually be 1/4/2013.

Management mentioned the same thing about BLI in our RGS. But then he said the all the west coast bases were overstaffed, which clearly isn't the case, so I'm not sure how believable it was. You get a different answer depending on who you ask. The right hand NEVER knows what the left is doing here.

And Labbats is correct. Almost every west coast FO will only bid west coast upgrade. The rumor on this last bid was that CA could go as jr as a 2013 hire because no one wanted PGD. Didn't happen, but it was surprising to hear that.

They backfilled to replace the BLI FO's who upgraded which tends to argue against the shrinkage rumor. Bad news is it looks like 4 FO's who still want to go there. Might be a long wait for a new- hire.

Training
 

What do most people do for accommodations while in training?

You get a huge email group from your class and everyone scrounges for a two+ month rental. Seemed to be working out to around 225-450 a month.

Just got called for an interview. A few questions that I have;
Anyone have a gouge of the most recent interviews?

I know that the hotel isn't provide for training, but what can one expect for pay during training? I heard it is something like $2,200.000 per month, is this right and how long can one expect this training pay?

What are the day schedules like? What are the typical start times and end times to the day trips?

How is the strike vote coming? Do you think if one was hired today that they would be safe to get off probation in time before a strike would happen?

Thanks for the info, just looking for some answers and trying to figure out what is my best move.

How long did it take you to get the phone call after you turned in your resume/app?

PM me...I was supposed to be in the last class but had to delay for family issues.

The pay is $500/week while in training. The class runs from 9-5, Monday to Friday. Generally have weekend off. The sim could start anywhere from a few days to a few months after ground school ends.

There are no typical schedules, but the trips start as early as 0500 and run for as long as legally possible (generally 12 hours now).

The first meeting with the mediator is coming up, so a vote is probably at least a year away, but that could change.