Most incredible is this comes two weeks after our management type guy tells us how sad he is for all the poor poor pilots that have been TDYd for a year. Then management creates even more TDYs, doesn't honor seniority AND takes away rental cars for each TDYd pilot. Now 2 pilots share a car again. But at least the bosses are really sad and care.

We're back to sharing a car now? That email must have only gone out to those affected. Remember, ANY time spent driving your "Car Buddy" to the airport (because you need it later) is NOT considered rest and the clock should be started over.

Bumping this back up, any of the guys for the 19 May class started working accommodations yet?

Not yet. I haven't received anything from the company with the particulars. Have you?

I was thinking of trying to rent a house and splitting it with some other newbies.

I thought they paid for hotels now.

I heard a rumor (here) that they are going to, but I still haven't seen any information. I have my fingers crossed but either way I need to be ready.

Expect to find out a day or two before. Allegiant management doesn't plan very far ahead.

A week and a half before class starts and the newhires haven't gotten any specifics on the class. This should clue you in on what you have signed up for.

Exactly. Don't say we didn't warn all of you...

Believe it or not, I experienced far worse in my most-recent short-lived recall from furlough.

Please, never say that to our management, in fact, please never say that again to anyone.

Please, let me know any other rules and requirements you have of me before I go stepping on something painful.

I understand your position and concerns regarding relations.

Sorry, I shouldn't have put it like that.

Just received the class roster last night. For those of you who have recently gone through training, do you have any recommendations on lodging?

I haven't received any details regarding start time, address of training, attire, but I'm sure it's on the way.

Thank you for any help you can provide.

TC

Address is the same building you interviewed in (at least it was)...attire is business casual.

I have been scouring turnkey type stuff for almost a week and there isn't much out there for short term lease, unless you go unfurnished, but there is a place called Cort Furniture that does 120-130 a month for a two bedroom set up...

Training is at Allegiant corp. 8360 S. Durango Drive

I heard that several people told them TBNT at the last minute for this upcoming class, and that they are scrambling around trying to find someone to fill the open positions.

And keep in mind, we use the term "training" loosely.

Try homeaway.com (there's an iPhone app for it too). I thought your class was the getting paid lodging?

They cant say we didn't warn them, and it hasn't even started to start yet.

You mean something was promised and it didn’t happen. Its called being flexible. And that will be a one-way street for now on.

Thank you for your flexibility.

Bone

And remember newbies you work for a “Travel Company”, not an airline.

I haven't heard anything about the paid lodging. I'm getting close to departure date.

And "Platinum Standard Training" even more loosely.

YOUR (every pilot's) flexibility is in the company's DNA!

They are not paying for lodging for this class.

You don’t work for just another “F”ing ariline! (Psst. Someone ask where I got that from…)

I know of a certain Mr. Inferno that said thanks, but no thanks. I guess he didn't like the idea of having to borrow money to be able to afford his new "job". He said something about $34,000 a year to fly an MD-80 just seemed wrong.

I'll play.....Where in the world did you get that from? ;)

What’s the matter man? You gotta problem being flexible with your finances? Weak!

(sarcasm)

At the moment, American pays $40 and hour first year pay to fly the MD-80.

After hearing horror stories about this place i have decided to stay at my current company. I work for small charter company and even they provided lodging and pay when i went for initial training out in Dallas for three weeks. I believe this is a situation where the grass is not greener on the otherside. Thankyou for everyones input.

I am happy to see people turning down class dates,they called me for an interview and I said TBNT. The 60k pay cut and paying for my own accommodations, plus airfare to the interview was a little more then I could stomach. Hope for the best for all the Allegiant guys, you all are getting hosed by the typical management in this country, racing to the bottom. WTH are they teaching these morons in HR and Management now days. I have about had it with the way these companies, including my current employer keep changing the rules and expect loyalty, until they show a two way street of loyalty I will fly low and fast and burn some gas, accountability goes both ways. Burn it to the ground if they don't play. Good Luck to the Allegiant pilot group.

American gives you more than $2,000 per month and a free hotel during training. American Airlines second year pay is also almost $20 per hour higher and has way better travel benefits. They also have a higher MMG and better retirement. You can't even begin to compare American to Allegiant. My regional is actually better by far in many ways. I'm going to wait for something better. I can't take care of a family of 4 on Allegiant pay. I'm sure pay at Allegiant would be good down the road. I need better money than they can offer today though.

HR is pretty much run by Ford and Harrison Law Firm these days. Research them. :eek:

You're seriously comparing the two? :confused: Your head is in the sand.

No not really. Just being a little sarcastic about 1st year pay.

Apparently the sim in LAS is down again. Least it was as of Tuesday morning. See how long it takes to fix this time.

Lets hope they really fix everything too. Last time it was shut down for weeks. When it was finally "fixed" I had a PC. I couldn't believe it when I got in the sim and once again, I had to tap every darn button on the FGCP and TRP to get it to light up so I could see what button I was pushing, and the auto spoilers didn't work for awhile, and the seat belts didn't work, and generally everything still glitched out here and there so I wasn't sure if it was a "simulated" failure or a simulator failure. In all fairness though, it was exactly like a day at work, the only thing missing was the dispatch paperwork with errors in the TLR, wrong aircraft number, missing MELs, and random incorrect notes like "non RVSM" while being dispatched at 33,000 feet, the usual daily routine.

I know I've said this before, but reading that many are not taking the job (or even the interview) makes me positively giddy with excitement. You folks are doing us a HUGE service by not sacrificing your self-respect in order to log some MD-80 time. The only type of pilot I could even fathom wanting to come here would be a single 25 year old with a tote and futon as possessions and a month-to-month lease on an apartment (living with Mom and Dad is a plus). To anyone thinking of applying or interviewing, please do yourself a favor and stay put. This industry is about to bust wide open and there will be tons of better opportunities out there. To those who will be starting class next week, I wish you luck but I have a feeling that you haven't the faintest clue what you're in for.

I had spoke with a new hire and he seemed to imply that all accommodations were paid for during training. I will ask him to clarify. I'm less concerned about that compared to the lack of support when dispatched to fly with less than acceptable support. I just spoke with a friend at Spirit today and he couldn't say enough good things about how the company has treated him through training and now on the line. I hate that I could sit reserve at home with Allegiant out of about 4 bases.