Thinking of Allegiant?
10-25-2015, 03:07 PM
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I was talking to a US airways captain who is about to retire. He commuted half his career. He could have not commuted for the rest of his career and lived in base, but would have moved his family 9 times throughout his career every time a base closed and/or he got displaced.
There might be two or three bases mentioned that might be “Safe”. As we know smaller bases and even some larger ones are very fluid; Wendover, Laughlin, Grand Rapids, Los Angeles,.. Allegiant management's second favorite phrase next to, “If you don't like it leave”, is “Well you just need to move to your base” . Then they close it and/or get rid of the airplane. Bless their bonus loving hearts.
Word is the 757 and hence etops is going away faster than previously mentioned. That means the HNL pilots living in hawaii are about to get displaced, and the LAS 757 pilot(s) will be sent where? There’s no contractual provision for bump and flush, it's whatever management dictates, and where will that be? VBD? LAS? SFB?
The fact is this company opens and closes bases at will however they want with no regard to the pilots. It is a wise consideration taking into account single days off. No contractual minimum days off is a problem, unlike our “Peers”, Frontier and Spirit’s contractual minimum days off standard not to be one. So, you may get away with living in base and be insulated from the single day off schedules we have in abundance at g4, but for how long?
There might be two or three bases mentioned that might be “Safe”. As we know smaller bases and even some larger ones are very fluid; Wendover, Laughlin, Grand Rapids, Los Angeles,.. Allegiant management's second favorite phrase next to, “If you don't like it leave”, is “Well you just need to move to your base” . Then they close it and/or get rid of the airplane. Bless their bonus loving hearts.
Word is the 757 and hence etops is going away faster than previously mentioned. That means the HNL pilots living in hawaii are about to get displaced, and the LAS 757 pilot(s) will be sent where? There’s no contractual provision for bump and flush, it's whatever management dictates, and where will that be? VBD? LAS? SFB?
The fact is this company opens and closes bases at will however they want with no regard to the pilots. It is a wise consideration taking into account single days off. No contractual minimum days off is a problem, unlike our “Peers”, Frontier and Spirit’s contractual minimum days off standard not to be one. So, you may get away with living in base and be insulated from the single day off schedules we have in abundance at g4, but for how long?
10-25-2015, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GordoCooper
Just a word to the wise. Next schedule allows a total of 2 days at home. Yes, you read it right, 2 days at home for the entire month. Oh, and I almost forgot, no I'm not TDY, VBD, etc, just an average 5 yr capt. My commute home is less than a two hr flight on any number of airlines. But, since the schedule is manipulated at AAY, they put single days off for all but 2 times, and the 2 times there are more than one day off (read 2 days off in a row), they make sure your schedule prior to your day off ends after the last flight out, which ensures you won't get home. Oh yes, also, they make sure if you do get home, you'll need to turn right back around because your next trip begins at 6am, so you need to get there the night before.
Again, a 5 yr capt with 2 total days at home for the entire month who lives within a 2 hr commute type flight. But hey, SH, GB, MG, etc say they are trying to make this a great place to work, and those rotten pilots are asking for too much. I wonder how many days management gets to be home?
Remember if you are looking at coming to G4; if they promote the "home every night" statement, they are simply saying that you won't be in a hotel; you'll just be somewhere that you must call home because Allegiant isn't keeping you in a hotel!
Again, a 5 yr capt with 2 total days at home for the entire month who lives within a 2 hr commute type flight. But hey, SH, GB, MG, etc say they are trying to make this a great place to work, and those rotten pilots are asking for too much. I wonder how many days management gets to be home?
Remember if you are looking at coming to G4; if they promote the "home every night" statement, they are simply saying that you won't be in a hotel; you'll just be somewhere that you must call home because Allegiant isn't keeping you in a hotel!
10-25-2015, 04:27 PM
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Uh, no!! I Proudly served our great nation as a volunteer (ie not drafted) for a citizenry that has helped you sleep soundly at night free from harm! (You're welcome)
I have over 20 years flying any number of aircraft, and no.....this isn't my first rodeo. I'm simply stating the 5 year mark so a potential new hire will know what to expect if he hears the home every night sales pitch. I'm here for the long haul, are you? Did my post offend you? Does the reality of G4 needing to amend and advance a QOL for the pilots disturb you? Maybe informing applicants was my goal. Apparently yours was to attack the message, to place a cloud on reality here at G4.
I have over 20 years flying any number of aircraft, and no.....this isn't my first rodeo. I'm simply stating the 5 year mark so a potential new hire will know what to expect if he hears the home every night sales pitch. I'm here for the long haul, are you? Did my post offend you? Does the reality of G4 needing to amend and advance a QOL for the pilots disturb you? Maybe informing applicants was my goal. Apparently yours was to attack the message, to place a cloud on reality here at G4.
10-25-2015, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by EMB4Ever
5 year Captain? Ooooooh. Must be tough. Want to talk to some 20 yr FOs and see what they think of the sand in your vag?
10-25-2015, 05:10 PM
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I personally appreciate the insight. It's good to know what is actually happening to people flying the line.
That being said, I absolutely knew that Allegiant was a terrible place to work if you did not live in domicile. I knew that when I applied six years ago. From what I can tell, nothing has changed. I'm not sure why you are so surprised.
I get that it sucks... But again, it is known.
Maybe now it will be more known.
Allegiant IS NOT commutable!!!!!
That being said, I absolutely knew that Allegiant was a terrible place to work if you did not live in domicile. I knew that when I applied six years ago. From what I can tell, nothing has changed. I'm not sure why you are so surprised.
I get that it sucks... But again, it is known.
Maybe now it will be more known.
Allegiant IS NOT commutable!!!!!
10-25-2015, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by GordoCooper
Uh, no!! I Proudly served our great nation as a volunteer (ie not drafted) for a citizenry that has helped you sleep soundly at night free from harm! (You're welcome)
I have over 20 years flying any number of aircraft, and no.....this isn't my first rodeo. I'm simply stating the 5 year mark so a potential new hire will know what to expect if he hears the home every night sales pitch. I'm here for the long haul, are you? Did my post offend you? Does the reality of G4 needing to amend and advance a QOL for the pilots disturb you? Maybe informing applicants was my goal. Apparently yours was to attack the message, to place a cloud on reality here at G4.
I have over 20 years flying any number of aircraft, and no.....this isn't my first rodeo. I'm simply stating the 5 year mark so a potential new hire will know what to expect if he hears the home every night sales pitch. I'm here for the long haul, are you? Did my post offend you? Does the reality of G4 needing to amend and advance a QOL for the pilots disturb you? Maybe informing applicants was my goal. Apparently yours was to attack the message, to place a cloud on reality here at G4.
There are many other airlines hiring right now. Go to one please.
10-25-2015, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GordoCooper
Uh, no!! I Proudly served our great nation as a volunteer (ie not drafted) for a citizenry that has helped you sleep soundly at night free from harm! (You're welcome)
I have over 20 years flying any number of aircraft, and no.....this isn't my first rodeo. I'm simply stating the 5 year mark so a potential new hire will know what to expect if he hears the home every night sales pitch. I'm here for the long haul, are you? Did my post offend you? Does the reality of G4 needing to amend and advance a QOL for the pilots disturb you? Maybe informing applicants was my goal. Apparently yours was to attack the message, to place a cloud on reality here at G4.
I have over 20 years flying any number of aircraft, and no.....this isn't my first rodeo. I'm simply stating the 5 year mark so a potential new hire will know what to expect if he hears the home every night sales pitch. I'm here for the long haul, are you? Did my post offend you? Does the reality of G4 needing to amend and advance a QOL for the pilots disturb you? Maybe informing applicants was my goal. Apparently yours was to attack the message, to place a cloud on reality here at G4.
It's common knowledge that Allegient is a live in base airline. been that way since the early 2000's
10-25-2015, 05:32 PM
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Disco! Would you like it if no information regarding true G4 life was not available? If so....I'll simply invite you to leave. You are the constant negative attack artist. No, I'm not looking for any pat on the back. I was attacked for referring to my 5 years at G4. I simply stated information for clarity. I'm not new, I have a little life experience, and I want new hires/applicants to know the "home every night" is false! I also didn't cry about it with my vag! I'm simply stating fact. Home every night is no longer true at G4! New hires/applicants should know about this.
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