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Saabs 04-27-2017 11:46 AM
Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2352140)
All a matter of perspective.

If red eyes were worth a 5 hour min calendar day, they would be ultra-senior.
They will be embedded into other trips soon

aa73 04-27-2017 12:12 PM
PHL town hall announcement that company and APA are close to an agreement on min calendar day as well as LTD fix. Take it for what it's worth..

AAmi65yet 04-27-2017 12:26 PM
Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 2352193)
PHL town hall announcement that company and APA are close to an agreement on min calendar day as well as LTD fix. Take it for what it's worth..
I'm praying you're right! :confused:

DarinFred 04-27-2017 12:27 PM
Redeyes
 
I've got a 4 day next month that ends in a redeye. We'll see how it goes.

Half wing 04-27-2017 01:11 PM
Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2352140)
All a matter of perspective.

If red eyes were worth a 5 hour min calendar day, they would be ultra-senior.
They will probably just embed them in 4 days. Doubtful they will be senior.

Saabs 04-27-2017 02:30 PM
Originally Posted by DarinFred (Post 2352201)
I've got a 4 day next month that ends in a redeye. We'll see how it goes.
I'll bid those all day. Get off early on day 4

PRS Guitars 04-27-2017 04:20 PM
Originally Posted by DarinFred (Post 2352201)
I've got a 4 day next month that ends in a redeye. We'll see how it goes.
They aren't bad, I like them for two reasons.

First, they usually pay at least 20:40, so a normal 4 day pay vs 2 day pay for a 3 day red eye. Second, you get up early on day 3, get to the hotel, walk around or work out, have lunch and you're tired enough from getting up early to get a good nap (6 hours for me on my last one).

Al Czervik 04-27-2017 05:02 PM
Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 2352382)
They aren't bad, I like them for two reasons.

First, they usually pay at least 20:40, so a normal 4 day pay vs 2 day pay for a 3 day red eye. Second, you get up early on day 3, get to the hotel, walk around or work out, have lunch and you're tired enough from getting up early to get a good nap (6 hours for me on my last one).
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh

D B Cooper 04-27-2017 05:08 PM
Originally Posted by jacjetlag (Post 2351686)
Sect. 6...RLA
Full on negotiations for a new (amendable) contract.
Better than a section 8.

Dolphinflyer 04-27-2017 06:28 PM
Originally Posted by Half wing (Post 2352244)
They will probably just embed them in 4 days. Doubtful they will be senior.
Yup. I don't think there will be much QWL improvement there. They are already doing the 4-day thing with MIA 737I. The redeye MBJ/CUN flights from LAX are 4-days. Two late nights followed by a time shift to an early wake and a 10+ hour duty on last day.

Guys thinking they will fly the Bus to HNL out of LAX making 15+ on a two leg sequence are delusional.


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