A330FoodCritic

Great job Marine, we absolutely need Min Cal Day, not ACD.

mainlineAF

DL and UA have average calendar day. SWA has minimum calendar day.

You don’t understand the excitement of redeyes and other slash trips going from 11-12 hours of pay to 15:30?

Also, no more 10 day off lines full of redeyes. 13 off will be the min with a 90 hr line.

FLPS30GRDWN

Yes, it’s that horrible. I once had a 19 day schedule that paid 76 hrs. How this union ever agreed to not pay people to sit in a hotel away from home is astounding.

R57 relay

AA currently has average duty PERIOD pay. You can go fly a trip that touches 3 calendar days, but only has 2 duty periods, so you can get as low as 10:20 for a trip that touches 3 days. ACD will change that, but most likely will chance how trips are constructed too.

typical41

Very minor amount, but I believe under the new, yet to be implemented ACD, that type of 3 day you are referring to would actually pay 15:45 and not 15:30. I believe they agreed to 5:15 like Delta has.

Saabs

That’s correct. Don’t listen to mainlineAF he’s an eagle troll.

AZFlyer

From an outsider that is keenly interested in AA, those numbers are pretty astounding and eye-opening (eye-watering even?? ) that trips could credit so poorly like that.

Had a PHX AA guy on my jumpseat recently and he likened his schedules to working at a giant regional airline, but the way you guys describe some of the possible trip scenarios/days off makes it sound worse than a lot of regionals!

I'm looking forward to hearing about the positive changes that ACD brings to your flying and credit once it's implemented. I'm glad to hear that there are improvements on the horizon.

Name User

FWIW I've only been here four years and got 18 off this month / mid 70's credit and next month have 14 days off and 88 credit. Not a single red-eye.

Yes the flying is regionalish...basically what mainline did before the CRJ-900 and ERJ-170 took over. But people will ***** because they "don't want that flying". Just be happy we are finally doing it again, sheesh.

Regionalsuck

For the next contract if we are doing "regionalish" flying.. may as well get MIN days of 15 OFF even ON RSV like SWA at least. They seem to manage to all get 16-20 days off with High credit time for LNE holders.

These 10-14 days off schedules is why most of us wanted to leave the regionals, so we could actually have a life outside of work gone from home in some hotel somewhere. That is regional contract BS right there. Seeing all the 10-13 day off schedules people got this month are scary. That is worse than we had at our regional. Hopefully there will be an improvement with the 5:15 thing but that is yet to be seen. There needs to be min scheduled days off written in stone in the contract and it needs to say 15 RSV or LNE. If you want to go below that "voluntarily", be my guest.

I understand SWA is way more efficient with their scheduling but we need to do something other than just pay rates in this next contract. Or we need a different less wasteful way of scheduling things. Pay rates is all anyone ever seems to want when contract time comes around. Pay rates, Pay rates, Pay rates. Pay is useless if you have no life at home other than packing and doing laundry for the next trip and heading right back out the door working more than a regional new hire. The "pay rates" are pretty good now, (except for profit sharing which is atrocious compared to peers). Now everything else QOL/contract wise needs to improve significantly.

BackintheLPA

Is the next class scheduled for 29 May?