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Sliceback 11-01-2017 11:19 AM

I *hate* hearing this bs "we never had the j/s protection at AA". We (LAA + LUS including LAWA) could have benefited from this, would it not have been because of TW*. His point of view forced upon his group shows what's wrong with APA. It reminds me of George Orwell's 1984 political party.

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(Note: TW is not a commuter. He lives in DFW. If he needs to go somewhere he gets A1 passes (for life). Remember this.

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Lots of things to remember -

1. TW took office after the contracts were agreed to. His first actions regarding the contract took place during the JCBA talks. So he's not to blame for the lack of inclusion of the j/s weight protection.

2. TW commutes frequently. He has at least two houses.

3. He doesn't get A1 passes for life.

Arado 234 11-01-2017 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 2458804)

1. TW took office after the contracts were agreed to. His first actions regarding the contract took place during the JCBA talks. So he's not to blame for the lack of inclusion of the j/s weight protection.
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You are either misinformed or a liar!

He PERSONALLY is to blame for the loss of the j/s protection. Talk to the LUS/LAWA members that were there!

You are FAKE news!

450knotOffice 11-01-2017 03:17 PM

Do you have proof of that? If so put it up. I’d love to see it.
(Not that I am personally aware of any of these claims of personal responsibility or not, but I figure if one is going to make the claim as fact, then support the argument with fact)

Sliceback 11-01-2017 05:17 PM

When and where was the meeting where TW gave up the j/s protection? Which we didn’t have so the company was negotiating to allow it.

How did he have the ability to unilaterally reject the company’s offer? What did the company want in return?

Al Czervik 11-02-2017 02:51 AM

When TW has A1 why does he ask the gate agent to put him in the j/s if there is a primary listed?

mainlineAF 11-02-2017 04:14 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2459168)
When TW has A1 why does he ask the gate agent to put him in the j/s if there is a primary listed?



If he has ever done that he should be banned from any APA position for life.

Arado 234 11-02-2017 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 2459021)
When and where was the meeting where TW gave up the j/s protection? Which we didn’t have so the company was negotiating to allow it.

How did he have the ability to unilaterally reject the company’s offer? What did the company want in return?

Talk to BC (east) who was on the j/s committee at the time, I can't remember the name of the West rep.

When LUS and LAA come together to discuss the j/s issue, it was suggested to adapt the LUS j/s reservation system as a method that's fair to all pilots. All LAA were initially on board until TW had his hissy fit ("APA bylaws state that everything should be done by seniority"). There was so much arguing (AND resistance by TW) without any result that the company stepped in and stated to keep the LUS j/s but WITHOUT the j/s weight protection.

This is what happened, I got it from two independent sources (E and W) that were there. If you wanna drink Slice's coolaid and keep worshiping an individual that mainly looks out for himself, go ahead.

BTW It *really* breaks my heart reading about someone's problem having to commute between two homes. Who's got spare tissues...?

Arado 234 11-02-2017 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by mainlineAF (Post 2459200)
If he has ever done that he should be banned from any APA position for life.

You know I had the same thought. Can someone shed some light what travel privileges the APA reps get?

jcountry 11-02-2017 06:02 AM

I don’t think I have ever heard anything good about TW. The fact that a person like that gets elected demonstrates how bad our union is.

mainlineAF 11-02-2017 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2459248)
I don’t think I have ever heard anything good about TW. The fact that a person like that gets elected demonstrates how bad our union is.



Our union or our membership?


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