Can a regional guy jumpseat (in a cabin seat) on an international flight yet?

I *thought* you could always do that.

Back in the day, American had D6Us and D6Ls. D6Us were unlimited. D6Ls were limited to the physical number of jumpseats installed on the plane, regardless of the load. The list was down to just a few carriers last I heard and I don't know if it ever fully went away or not.

The funny thing was, if the jumpseat was taken by a D6U and there was a D6L waiting, the D6L would be left behind.

All airlines are D6UJ “unlimited” now... we take as many pilots as their are open cabin seats, domestically speaking. International, we still don’t have all airlines on board yet... so if you’re not on the international list we can’t take you. They have promised to fix it but it fell into one of those non-urgent back burner type deals. We haven’t stopped pressuring them to do it.

Bringing this thread back regarding jumpseaters in first class. I’m a frequent jumpseater on AA and have enjoyed several first class seats since D6 jumpseaters we’re now allowed to upgrade. But last week I had a gate agent assign me a first class seat. Thirty minutes later when boarding began, an error came up. The same agent said I wasn’t allowed to sit in first and handed me a coach seat. I politely asked about the new policy and he said that D6’s have never been allowed in first. Both agents agreed. I thought maybe this was a rogue agent, but now I’m on my third AA flight where I see empty seats up front. Maybe it was booked full and someone no showed or has the policy changed to not allow D6 up front again? Appreciate the ride as always, and enjoying a whole row to myself, but was just curious.


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The first time I ever rode on AA (offline) was in 2006. I flew out of JAX, which was run by Eagle (Executive). Coach filled up, but there were 3 or 4 First Class seats available. The agent said she couldn't put me on because I was a jumpseater. I asked, "So the plane has seats, but I can't get on?" She said she couldn't put me in First (AA was still charging for First at the time). She went down to close out the flight and then came back up top in a huff and told me to come down. The Captain insisted that I be boarded. The agent was not happy about it.

Wow, I Jump seated on UAL, ORD - NRT, agent put me in BIZ, I felt guilty because I didn’t have a STARBUCKS card to give him.

On my flights if there is an open first class seat, any D6 will be in it. It is captains discretion to move them up and we on the j/s committee have constantly reminded the pilots of this fact. The problem is that 1) many times D6s don’t come up to introduce themselves if they already have a seat, 2) many captains don’t check the standby list so they don’t even realize they have a D6 on board, and 3) even if they do realize they’re on board, they can’t be bothered and /or don’t want to engage with the #1 FA. Sad.

Agents can absolutely issue a first class seat to a D6 if that’s the last seat left. But some agents don’t realize this.

Sorry this happened to you.

My apologies to my peers at other airlines jumpseating on AA. Culture continues to be a problem here and this is one of the issues that really ****es me off. I am embarrassed by the actions of my coworkers sometimes. AA73 is right on.

Dealing with the flight attendant can be a real pain in the ass. I asked nicely if we had a seat in first for a jumpseater(I new we did but was trying to not ruffle feathers). The reply was “if you come back here and serve him” and “it’s not fair just because your the Captain we have to do it. Why don’t you put other airline FAs up front”. My reply after initial shock. “Is it that hard to open a can of soda”? And “If the other airline Flight Attendant had the courtesy of saying hello to the Captain then I would be more than happy to sit them in First”. Needless to say that crew 2 of the 3 really sticks in my craw.

This is what you have to deal with here at AA. The culture sucks. Over many tough years the attitudes of coworkers has evolved in to a monster I don’t give a crap attitude. I will not give up trying to better this career and make it a pleasure for those who work with me. Some days it is a challenge.

UFB, to have a trip with a #1 with that sort of unhappy attitude. Must have been a fun sequence.