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Mover
Would you rather stick with what we had? 3 day 11 hour trips. You do realize we are not in section 6? I think APA has done a hell of a good job making meaningful gains outside of section 6. Point to any other airline who has done as much outside of negotiations. The LOS deal is going to require additional manpower. Lots of pilots are going to get an extra week or so of vacation starting in 2019. |
Originally Posted by Laker24
(Post 2487814)
Mover
Would you rather stick with what we had? 3 day 11 hour trips. You do realize we are not in section 6? I think APA has done a hell of a good job making meaningful gains outside of section 6. Point to any other airline who has done as much outside of negotiations. The LOS deal is going to require additional manpower. Lots of pilots are going to get an extra week or so of vacation starting in 2019. The devil is in the details. |
Originally Posted by Mover
(Post 2487786)
We're going to have to use negotiating capital to fix this because AVG calendar day and a concession for electronic notification isn't what we want.
What would you rather have besides average calendar day? Of course minimum would be better but there’s no way we would get that. |
Originally Posted by mainlineAF
(Post 2487855)
What would you rather have besides average calendar day? Of course minimum would be better but there’s no way we would get that.
I'd prefer a better F time rig above anything, but a min + F time would be ideal. |
Originally Posted by Mover
(Post 2487990)
Why not? That's the kind of attitude that creates a weak and feckless union.
I'd prefer a better F time rig above anything, but a min + F time would be ideal. We won’t get a min day bc we aren’t in section 6 and no one else besides SWA has a true min day. That’s not being weak that’s being realistic. Didn’t APA test better F time and conclude an average calendar day was better? |
Language is out.
1 for 1.5 duty rig for odarkthirty flying 5+15 Rig implemented by September, unless vacation float is under 30%, then they can delay to january 2019. They will pay 1 million penalty month one and 1.5 million each month after. Check airman adjusted to maintain 11 minute premium. LOS resolved, and shall accrue for any future furloughs. Give up all claims to open time grievances, and all previous are settled at 50% Overall, a huge win outside of Sec 6 IMHO |
Originally Posted by R57 relay
(Post 2487704)
CLT-LAX-HNL-LAX-CLT or PHL-PHX-HNL-PHX-PHL...mighty efficient.
I think you would see the routing you posted happen in the non summer months. PHL will be busy with all the new European flying coming in April and May. |
Not sure electronic notifications are going to be all that great. We need some serious RA and RO language in section 6.
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
(Post 2487525)
I’d wait to see what APA gave for all of this.
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Originally Posted by Cheddar
(Post 2488222)
Not sure electronic notifications are going to be all that great. We need some serious RA and RO language in section 6.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk All APA has done since I’ve been here is negotiate really ****ty language on everything-and play like it’s all the company’s fault. |
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