AA joint venture with Qantas
 

Discuss,

https://thepointsguy.com/2018/02/american-and-qantas-revive-push-for-joint-venture/

They are both OneWorld now

https://www.oneworld.com/member-airlines/overview

Well there's a difference between being in an alliance and a joint venture.

http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/10/12/interline-codeshare-alliances-joint-ventures/

"If a codeshare agreement is like dating, then a joint venture is like getting married. A joint venture agreement is a massive business decision that typically requires extensive government approval. When airlines form a joint venture they coordinate pricing and schedules, and have a revenue sharing agreement."

The thought I had was how will this affect the requirement for pilot jobs? If airlines in a joint venture can coordinate pricing and scheduling, they can reduce the number of flights.

If I'm not mistaken Qantas and Emirates entered into an agreement in 2012, which shifted a lot of flying to Emirates.

Look at all the green routes operated by Emirates:
https://www.qantas.com/travel/airlines/qantas-emirates/global/en

If (“when”...thanks to Trump administration) this gets approved I’ll bet the company will follow this up with a decision on the 350 order and/or more exercising 787 options.

I agree. They will probably cancel the 350 order and opt not to buy more 787s. Why spend 200+ million a pop when you can just get QANTAS to do it with a nicer product? I’m worried that the future of AA is a massive 321/737 fleet to feed QANTAS, LanTam, British Airways, Japan Airlines, and China Southern. Standby for more exciting announcements like AAs nonstop service from ORD-Myrtle Beach

I thought the total cost for a Qantas pilot was higher than for any american pilot? If so, then maybe Qantas wants to shift flying to AA, as they did with Emirates.

Possibly but the exchange rate and higher pay in today’s market might make a Qantas pilot cheaper. Then AA would want to shift flying to Aussie pilots.

Especially if Qantas can repatriate pilots who went to Emirates, Cathay, Air Japan etc and pay them first year rates.

Why the need to get political? :rolleyes:

At least the previous, ‘labor-friendly’ administration blocked the alter-ego Norwegian entity from entering the US market, right?.. Oh wait, no, they didn’t block it.. :eek:

Newsflash - neither side cares about our profession.
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No dog in this fight but I know a couple of Qantas pilots. They say Emirates joint venture ended up benefiting primarily Emirates. In fact, they couldn’t think of any positives coming from their JV. Of course, they might be somewhat biased..

I disagree, this will be a very good thing. They already said if we don't get the JV we won't be doing AKL much longer they also said if we DO get the JV we will be able to add more to Australia like Perth. So we need this JV to happen.

I also hope we can get a JV with China Southern, we would probably add some more cities in mainland china.

Wow, wow.. fly on China Southern frequently.. wonder how you’ll ever be able to compete with them? Their senior captains probably make less than your new hire-hire gate agents. Not putting anyone down, just making a comparison argument... ..and working for an airline, in ANY capacity, is a FANTASTIC job over there.. (think US in the 50s)..

Do you really think any joint venture with a Chinese carrier can be beneficial to a US based airline? (pilots and flight attendants, not the corporation which would benefit GREATLY from such a JV!!!)

If you think so then I’ve got this fantastic ocean-view Oklahoma property I’d like to sell you... :rolleyes: