AA 777 Captain arrested for assault
03-10-2018, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by aa73
he should be presumed innocent until proven guilty in a US court of law.
Let’s not be so quick to judge... and more importantly, to take a foreign government’s word against an American citizen without knowing all the facts.
Let’s not be so quick to judge... and more importantly, to take a foreign government’s word against an American citizen without knowing all the facts.
Second, it's not a foreign government's word, it is the word of another person (alleged victim).
I'm not presuming his guilt or innocence, but I will say that the situation sounds bad for him. Getting arrested in a foreign country is never a good thing, obviously.
03-10-2018, 09:41 AM
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Exactly. And because getting arrested in a foreign country is never a good thing, all the more reason to at least be back in the USA as it gets sorted out. In my eyes he’s innocent until proven guilty. We don’t have enough facts to pass judgement just yet. Furthermore, I’ve lived in and visited enough foreign countries to know that they capitalize on any chance they have in ridiculing/harassing Americans even if they’re in the wrong.
If you were in his shoes I guarantee you’d be dang happy to be back too.
If you were in his shoes I guarantee you’d be dang happy to be back too.
03-10-2018, 10:45 AM
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How would you feel if a foreign pilot assaulted a ground handler in JFK and after two days was back in his country of origin without an snowballs chance in hell he’d be back for court?
Scared of foreign judicial systems?
Like we’ve never put an innocent person in jail......after being ‘proven’ guilty in a jury trial of their peers no less.
Now it’s possible that “simple assault” or whatever the legal terminology in Brazil carries a fine which was paid.
Or the alleged “victim” paid off or whatever.
In any case he’s never going back there.
And if I were in his shoes I would have behaved.
Scared of foreign judicial systems?
Like we’ve never put an innocent person in jail......after being ‘proven’ guilty in a jury trial of their peers no less.
Now it’s possible that “simple assault” or whatever the legal terminology in Brazil carries a fine which was paid.
Or the alleged “victim” paid off or whatever.
In any case he’s never going back there.
And if I were in his shoes I would have behaved.
03-10-2018, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by aa73
Exactly. And because getting arrested in a foreign country is never a good thing, all the more reason to at least be back in the USA as it gets sorted out. In my eyes he’s innocent until proven guilty. We don’t have enough facts to pass judgement just yet. Furthermore, I’ve lived in and visited enough foreign countries to know that they capitalize on any chance they have in ridiculing/harassing Americans even if they’re in the wrong.
If you were in his shoes I guarantee you’d be dang happy to be back too.
If you were in his shoes I guarantee you’d be dang happy to be back too.
And I wouldn't be in his shoes because I know better than to allegedly choke out a female gate agent over a petty dispute.
03-10-2018, 11:08 AM
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And you KNOW he actually did this. You KNOW that someone wouldn’t accuse you of doing something you didn’t do.
Ok, then.
Naive is a word that comes to mind.
Ok, then.
Naive is a word that comes to mind.
Originally Posted by ceelo
He got arrested in Brazil. He should face the consequences in Brazil.
And I wouldn't be in his shoes because I know better than to allegedly choke out a female gate agent over a petty dispute.
And I wouldn't be in his shoes because I know better than to allegedly choke out a female gate agent over a petty dispute.
03-10-2018, 11:18 AM
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^^^ exactly. All I’m saying is... don’t be quick to throw this guy under the bus until you have all the details of what really happened. I’ve seen and heard too much. Just talk to the US Embraer pilots who had the midair. The lengths the Brazilians are going to in order to pin it on our guys has been absolutely chilling. It’s still not over for them.
Not saying our captain is not at fault here. We don’t know yet. Just cautioning to not jump to conclusions and throw him under without knowing all the details.
Not saying our captain is not at fault here. We don’t know yet. Just cautioning to not jump to conclusions and throw him under without knowing all the details.
03-10-2018, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
And you KNOW he actually did this. You KNOW that someone wouldn’t accuse you of doing something you didn’t do.
Ok, then.
Naive is a word that comes to mind.
Ok, then.
Naive is a word that comes to mind.
He got arrested in Brazil, he should face his accusations in Brazil.
Dense is a word that comes to mind.
03-10-2018, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by aa73
^^^ exactly. All I’m saying is... don’t be quick to throw this guy under the bus until you have all the details of what really happened. I’ve seen and heard too much. Just talk to the US Embraer pilots who had the midair. The lengths the Brazilians are going to in order to pin it on our guys has been absolutely chilling. It’s still not over for them.
Not saying our captain is not at fault here. We don’t know yet. Just cautioning to not jump to conclusions and throw him under without knowing all the details.
Not saying our captain is not at fault here. We don’t know yet. Just cautioning to not jump to conclusions and throw him under without knowing all the details.
But this won’t get through to Ceelo or Tiredsoul, they are sensitive progressive pilots. Tiredsoul hates “old white men”.
03-10-2018, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by aa73
^^^ exactly. All I’m saying is... don’t be quick to throw this guy under the bus until you have all the details of what really happened. I’ve seen and heard too much. Just talk to the US Embraer pilots who had the midair. The lengths the Brazilians are going to in order to pin it on our guys has been absolutely chilling. It’s still not over for them.
Not saying our captain is not at fault here. We don’t know yet. Just cautioning to not jump to conclusions and throw him under without knowing all the details.
Not saying our captain is not at fault here. We don’t know yet. Just cautioning to not jump to conclusions and throw him under without knowing all the details.
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