ORDinary

Ha, no I wasn't. That sucks.

jcountry

I agree that the contract is written to maximize the # of jobs, but the lack of work rules more than negates that.

The fact that line holders can now be rescheduled as many times as possible, and the overall disaster that we call a scheduling system really puts a wrench in stuff. Our pilots are “efficiented” to the max.

Delta has more active pilots, but we fly more hours and more planes.

tomgoodman

In the past, that kind of thinking has led to B-scales and disunity.

RyanP

I want to work less, not more. Had enough of that life at the regionals. More pilots = better QOL. Less pilots = slave camp.

MUCH more concerned with things like fixing the scheduling issues we already have. Making them pay big $$$ penalties for reassignments/extensions (reserves included). Protecting days off with severe $$$ penalties plus return days (reserves included). Increasing MIN days off to 15 LINE/RSV. Max 2 man FDP reduced to 12.5 scheduled/14 actual with big $$$ penalties to voluntarily extend like UAL has. Tightening up scope, reduced RJ count at regionals, Premium for holiday/redeye flying. 321/737MAX to GIII scale, DAL profit sharing match etc etc..

DAL pilot puts on slippers and walks to mailbox in underwear, opens profit sharing check for 45K then takes boat to the lake.
AA pilot works like dog all year to max out pay, never home, loses days off, skips vacations and everything he can possibly do to get extra 40k + 3K profit sharing check.

Which of the 2 has the correct Airline Pilot mentality? We need to focus on getting more for what we ALREADY do, not do more for more. That is incorrect logic. Lol

Laker24

Actually according to the latest contract comparison Delta has 14,600 active pilots vs 14,599 active pilots at AA...The kicker is that Delta has about 70 fewer aircraft. Clearly something much bigger is driving jobs. I’m guessing it’s crew scheduling’s ability to use 10,000+ line holders as ready reserves. We go out on a pairing as a line holder not knowing where we will fly or even what day we will get home. If AA wanted to drive more jobs they could start by fixing our bottom of the barell scheduling rules.

Laker24

You nailed it! I hope you are sending soundoffs and completing contract surveys. The only thing I would add is we need to protect scope on Group 4 acft as well. These JV agreements could result in much fewer widebody jobs. It’s easy to cancel orders. Parker could use our 321s to feed Qantas and LATAM 787s and 380s. He’s going to be looking for anyway possible to shave costs now that we are solidly in 3rd place in terms of earnings performance.

m78fl370

This!!!! A million times this!

Dobbs18

This is what I was trying to say, bc it appears Delta’s make money rules are not really costing them pilot jobs when you look at the pilot to aircraft numbers...their management, however, probably is comfortable with staffing their aircraft at a high level than ours for reliability.

Al Czervik

The fact that someone is arguing for having more jobs so we’ll have a bigger buffer during a furlough is beyond ludicrous. The ONLY thing that will fix the culture and the contract is retirements.

EMBFlyer

Color me surprised...