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Sliceback 12-04-2018 07:02 AM

R57 - here's another statistic - in ten years, or five years after a guy with five years to go retires, 81% of the current Captains will have retired.

There will be a tremendous amount of turnover which is great for the guys getting hired.

R57 relay 12-04-2018 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 2718718)
R57 - here's another statistic - in ten years, or five years after a guy with five years to go retires, 81% of the current Captains will have retired.

There will be a tremendous amount of turnover which is great for the guys getting hired.

Amazing. And with 32 years I’m sitting at about 50% of lineholders in CLT on the little Bus Capt.:rolleyes: Glad for you young guys though!

aa73 12-04-2018 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by R57 relay (Post 2718713)
Although I now prefer the Bus to the 737, I’m glad for the time I spent on the 737 and all the various aircraft I’ve flown here. New hires need to remember that even if the aircraft/base you get isn’t the one you want, it’s going to be very temporary.

While going through recurrent last month an instructor gave us old guys something to think about. He said all of you that have less than 5 years to go, raise your hand. There were quite a few. He said “Just think, if you’re pass riding a year or two after your retirement, the captain on your flight might not be on the property right now.”

I was the baby of my class at Piedmont, so wouldn’t have a choice. I wanted a F-28 F/O slot anywhere so I wouldn’t have to go to Piedmont’s infamous 727 F/E school. Of course I was assigned 727 F/E and it was the hardest I’ve ever worked in a school. But it was a great education and I’m so glad I had the experience.

Welcome to all our new guys, and enjoy the ride.

+1.... well said.

My situation was almost exactly the same as yours... Most junior guy in my class. Unfortunately (fortunately now!) my entire class was 727 F/E. Looking back now I’m super grateful I got to go through that course and experience the 3 Holer even though I never got to upgrade to the right seat in it.

737 is missing a lot of creature comforts and gee whiz stuff that the Bus has. But I wouldn’t trade a single hour of that for anything else... except possibly Super 80 time which was even more fun flying than the 737!

I’m sure I’ll end up flying a Bus some day in my future and believe it or not, despite all the knocking I do over it I’m actually looking forward to the experience. Guess I will have to come up with some other material at that point :D

R57 relay 12-04-2018 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 2718730)
+1.... well said.

My situation was almost exactly the same as yours... Most junior guy in my class. Unfortunately (fortunately now!) my entire class was 727 F/E. Looking back now I’m super grateful I got to go through that course and experience the 3 Holer even though I never got to upgrade to the right seat in it.

737 is missing a lot of creature comforts and gee whiz stuff that the Bus has. But I wouldn’t trade a single hour of that for anything else... except possibly Super 80 time which was even more fun flying than the 737!

I’m sure I’ll end up flying a Bus some day in my future and believe it or not, despite all the knocking I do over it I’m actually looking forward to the experience. Guess I will have to come up with some other material at that point :D

I was a Boeing guy through and through when I went to the Bus. Going from the 75/76 to the A321 SS model(Super Slug) was a shock. But after a few months I started to think “This thing is actually kinda comfortable, has a better EFIS presentation and ergonomics.” It has a great smooth ride detection system-it’s alway 500’ above recommended max!

I really liked the basic 737-200s. The trim switches were so worn that you could just kinda roll your thumb over them and have slow trim. Probably wouldn’t want to spend a long day in it now.

I wish I’d bid F/O on the 727, but I went for seniority. I flew it two legs when the captains said “Get up there boy, let’s see what you can do.” Different world. Was sitting in the left seat over DEN hand flying it one day (so the captain could eat his lunch on my table) when #3 threw a stator. Kept running all the way to LAX.

450knotOffice 12-04-2018 09:58 AM

Great stories, guys! 😊

JP, you will be assimilated! Resistance is futile! Lol!

R57, you have a way with words, man. I always like your posts.

QuagmireGiggity 12-04-2018 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by RhinoBallAuto (Post 2718024)
While I don't have first hand experience, I have heard the DFW/MIA commute is probably one of the tougher ones... YMMV

Not any more. That was pre airbus/ pre Jumpseat reservation days. It's an easy commute now. Airbus= mo jumpseats.

QuagmireGiggity 12-04-2018 10:19 AM

What was more junior in DFW two years ago (bus vs. 737) flip flopped. What is more junior in the future may or may not be the way it is today. It's not like a regional where there's a fairly clear line drawn as people move up. Something to consider.. US group is a bit older. More retirements coming on the bus.

The bus is not better just because of "creature comforts".. It's simply an easier to understand airplane.

R57 relay 12-04-2018 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 2718839)
Great stories, guys! 😊

JP, you will be assimilated! Resistance is futile! Lol!

R57, you have a way with words, man. I always like your posts.


Thanks! Good to see folks still enjoying aircraft now and then.

wiz5422 12-04-2018 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by QuagmireGiggity (Post 2718844)
Not any more. That was pre airbus/ pre Jumpseat reservation days. It's an easy commute now. Airbus= mo jumpseats.

So what is the easiest commute out of DFW for a new hire? LAX, NYC, or MIA?

450knotOffice 12-04-2018 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2718893)
So what is the easiest commute out of DFW for a new hire? LAX, NYC, or MIA?

LAX probably


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