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Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 2726920)

Rough estimate from the times I've counted is 85% CA's and 15% FO retirements.

I'm working on the end of 2018 seniority bid statuses (with DOH this time) per a request. Looking at the announced vacancies and they're in bid statuses that are more senior and/or have been stagnated recently. The big exception is LGA 777 FO. It's currently 11,748 at the bottom and the bottom G4 FO slot in the company. The six vacancies would have to drop 752 numbers to reach 12,500. If we were betting I'd be betting against 12,500 at the bottom in the June bid. I think there will be some more senior guys back filling.

We'll be smarter come Jan 15-18th!

777 FO DFW jumped 2000 numbers last OCT.

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Originally Posted by LIOG41 (Post 2726929)

777 FO DFW jumped 2000 numbers last OCT.

But it went back to being very senior, very quickly. On the bid that came out last June, I would have been able to hold it. Last couple of bids, I've been 1000+ numbers out again.

How many of these new CAs will be in DCA and in which aircraft?

18 known vacancies for DCA737CA. Bring it on!

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Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 2727063)

18 known vacancies for DCA737CA. Bring it on!

Which means we award 0 ;)

As we all know AA doesn’t know how to plan. These announcements, until we require them to by contract, never match up.

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Originally Posted by meyers9163 (Post 2727096)

Which means we award 0 ;)

As we all know AA doesn’t know how to plan. These announcements, until we require them to by contract, never match up.

Exactly! The vacancy announcement is worthless. And I’m not talking about the fact that there are vacancies created as a biproduct of filling the vacancies. Rather, they announce 10 CA vacancies in CLT and fill none. Stuff like that happens here.

My understanding is that other airlines are contractually required to fill every vacancy announced.

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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 2727127)

Yup. However we make excuses here like “AWA and LUS were tiny.” Ignore that when AA wasn’t 15k they still didn’t do this. DAL and UAL I do believe full theirs. However I don’t have their contract in front of me to confirm that?

AA should just say "we are going to move pilots around on January 1"!
By the way, January 1 is a Tuesday, not Monday.

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Originally Posted by LIOG41 (Post 2726929)

777 FO DFW jumped 2000 numbers last OCT.

Sixty seven (?) training starts on the 777. About a half dozen started in October so they'd perhaps only impact the Thanksgiving holiday. The other 60 ish starts made have had training conflicts with Thanksgiving and/or Christmas. Granted they were relatively junior already but IMO that supports the point I was trying to make - senior guys avoid the holiday conflicts if they can and there frequently can be significant back filling after a bid status goes very junior.

The junior FO's on the 777 in DFW, who were on reserve in November, are line holders in January. Guys just senior to them, who've been saying "I'd like to go to the 777 but I don't want to be on reserve" are suddenly going "whoa, did you what they're holding now?" With a couple more Europe trips (most popular to second most popular flying?) the mid pack guys are looking at more bidding horsepower.

And that's just at the bottom of the bid status. How many BNA, MEM, IND, etc, etc commuting to a G2 job have become DFW 777 lineholders as the bottom moved 2500 numbers? A lot. G4 pay changes bidding/vacancy thinking.

Place your bets.
G2 CA 11700
G4 FO 12200