June vacancy
12-17-2018 | 01:56 PM
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June vacancy
It's out on aapilots.
52 group 4 CAs
16 group 3 CAs
85 group 2 CAs
44 group 4 FOs
Predictions: Junior group 2 CA 12,100. Junior group 4 FO 12,500. (That would be early 2014/summer 2014 DOH's)
52 group 4 CAs
16 group 3 CAs
85 group 2 CAs
44 group 4 FOs
Predictions: Junior group 2 CA 12,100. Junior group 4 FO 12,500. (That would be early 2014/summer 2014 DOH's)
12-17-2018 | 02:07 PM
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Yes, this bid would likely be more junior than an August bid because training for this one is mar/apr/may. This bid is much larger than the other multi month bids we have had so far.
12-17-2018 | 02:17 PM
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Looks like this one is even bigger than the one from late summer, isn’t it? CA went waaay more jr for that run... hopefully that continues!!
12-17-2018 | 03:52 PM
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IMO this will be a more senior bid. The September and December bids can impact summer vacations and the holidays. The March and June training occur in the ‘quietest’ time of the Jan-May (June IOE for the May training starts).
IMO the first two bids of the year don’t impact my life. The last two both might have negative family impacts(summer vacation or the holidays)
IMO the first two bids of the year don’t impact my life. The last two both might have negative family impacts(summer vacation or the holidays)
12-17-2018 | 03:55 PM
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Late summer bid (September) is actually summer training with June- August starts. With that being the highest demand part of the year the fewer the training starts = increased pilots on the line and more CKA available to help with the summer demand if necessary.
12-17-2018 | 04:16 PM
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My guess is similar to the last bid as far as awards go. I'm guessing your numbers are good for next June's bid.
With 600 retirements a year won't we need 150 CAs a quarter? I know not all the guys retiring are CAs but almost all can hold it.
With 600 retirements a year won't we need 150 CAs a quarter? I know not all the guys retiring are CAs but almost all can hold it.
12-17-2018 | 04:28 PM
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Yes this bid basically covers a quarter worth of retirement but there will be quite a few people that won't bid for these positions until they can hold a line, get weekends off, avoid coverage days, etc. The last big bid like this saw group 2 CA and group 4 FO drop several hundred numbers.
12-17-2018 | 05:39 PM
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Rough estimate from the times I've counted is 85% CA's and 15% FO retirements.
I'm working on the end of 2018 seniority bid statuses (with DOH this time) per a request. Looking at the announced vacancies and they're in bid statuses that are more senior and/or have been stagnated recently. The big exception is LGA 777 FO. It's currently 11,748 at the bottom and the bottom G4 FO slot in the company. The six vacancies would have to drop 752 numbers to reach 12,500. If we were betting I'd be betting against 12,500 at the bottom in the June bid. I think there will be some more senior guys back filling.
We'll be smarter come Jan 15-18th!
I'm working on the end of 2018 seniority bid statuses (with DOH this time) per a request. Looking at the announced vacancies and they're in bid statuses that are more senior and/or have been stagnated recently. The big exception is LGA 777 FO. It's currently 11,748 at the bottom and the bottom G4 FO slot in the company. The six vacancies would have to drop 752 numbers to reach 12,500. If we were betting I'd be betting against 12,500 at the bottom in the June bid. I think there will be some more senior guys back filling.
We'll be smarter come Jan 15-18th!
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