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Old 12-20-2018, 04:06 PM
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My understanding is that other airlines are contractually required to fill every vacancy announced.


FYI Delta is not required to fill posted vacancies either.


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Old 12-20-2018, 04:22 PM
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FYI Delta is not required to fill posted vacancies either.


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Thanks for the clarification, I didn’t know that.
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Thanks for the clarification, I didn’t know that.
But I think DAL has contractual protections to ensure that those vacancies don't get filled by NHs post-award....
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Old 12-20-2018, 06:27 PM
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G2 CA 11300 (sr to now)
G4 FO 11800 (sr to now)
G3 FO 14800 and unfilled, new hires assigned this summer
G1 CA 14600 forced
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Old 12-21-2018, 01:33 AM
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G2 CA 11300 (sr to now)

G4 FO 11800 (sr to now)

G3 FO 14800 and unfilled, new hires assigned this summer

G1 CA 14600 forced


Interesting. What makes you say that? On the June bid last year that was similar in size g2 ca dropped 400 numbers.

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Old 12-21-2018, 02:24 AM
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Interesting. What makes you say that? On the June bid last year that was similar in size g2 ca dropped 400 numbers.
Wild guess. Senior pilots held off to bid it for the holidays and to secure their vacation for next year. Doing such knowing movement would still be happening and no need to rush into those positions. Now they will have a premium vacation slot next year, more pilots below them in their new status, and a better schedule then they previously would have with junior pilots who took it the year prior.

Just a guess based on his predictions. One that may very well be right. Many also jumping before the MD80 parking which with the exception of a few new hires is still relatively senior and those pilots being an unknown what they’ll bid to next.
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Old 12-21-2018, 04:35 AM
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Rockiepilot is correct, it’s also Sliceback’s theory. Also, for the G4 FO, it was a surprise how low it went 2 bids ago. Lots of people trying to get in on the action now.
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Wild guess. Senior pilots held off to bid it for the holidays and to secure their vacation for next year. Doing such knowing movement would still be happening and no need to rush into those positions. Now they will have a premium vacation slot next year, more pilots below them in their new status, and a better schedule then they previously would have with junior pilots who took it the year prior.



Just a guess based on his predictions. One that may very well be right. Many also jumping before the MD80 parking which with the exception of a few new hires is still relatively senior and those pilots being an unknown what they’ll bid to next.


If people wanted to wait for holidays and vacation they could have bid off on the March bid. We bid for vacation in January and you bid for the seat you’re currently occupying. Or at least that’s what i thought.

Why would you jump off an airplane 2 months before it’s going to be parked? No seat lock if you get displaced. That doesn’t make any sense.

Plus, look at last June bid. Group 2 captain dropped 400.
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I think group 4 FO will continue to drop. I'm about 500 away from it. Of those 500, 56 based in LAX/PHX and are very unlikely to take a cross country commute to sit short call. 25 are DFW767 and most of them at this seniority are seat locked. 28 are DFW S-80 and would probably be withheld until the 80 is parked. 24 are on the 767 in PHL/LGA, many are seat locked. 11 are 190 CA's and would be withheld for a year. That's 144 that are very unlikely to bid LGA-777. Another 80 are in DFW on the 737/320 and not likely to take a bad commute to SC considering DFW 777 has been going almost as junior.
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I think group 4 FO will continue to drop.
Yes, especially in NYC, because NYC sucks.

LGA G2 CA will keep dropping like a rock too.
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