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12-21-2018, 08:52 AM
#42
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Looking at the pbs awards for LGA, long call seems to go junior on the 777. For PHL it’s solidly SC for the 330 at the bottom. Is this solely a commuter thing? More 777 FO’s live in base in NYC than PHL 330 FO’s, or is there something else to it?
12-21-2018, 08:52 AM
#43
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
If people wanted to wait for holidays and vacation they could have bid off on the March bid. We bid for vacation in January and you bid for the seat you’re currently occupying. Or at least that’s what i thought.
Why would you jump off an airplane 2 months before it’s going to be parked? No seat lock if you get displaced. That doesn’t make any sense.
Plus, look at last June bid. Group 2 captain dropped 400.
Why would you jump off an airplane 2 months before it’s going to be parked? No seat lock if you get displaced. That doesn’t make any sense.
Plus, look at last June bid. Group 2 captain dropped 400.
Just guessing, I hope Im wrong by the way, my seniority is in the range of most of your guesses, so...
12-21-2018, 10:54 AM
#44
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Originally Posted by viper548
I wouldn't commute to sit SC on the 777. SC reserve on the 777 pays the same as a 90 hour group 2 FO line. Commuting to sit SC G2 captain is about $50k/yr more than a 90 hour G2 FO line.
12-21-2018, 01:04 PM
#45
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Originally Posted by RhinoBallAuto
.... And a 90hr G4 FO ≈ 73hr G2 CA
12-21-2018, 02:19 PM
#46
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
If people wanted to wait for holidays and vacation they could have bid off on the March bid. We bid for vacation in January and you bid for the seat you’re currently occupying. Or at least that’s what i thought.
Why would you jump off an airplane 2 months before it’s going to be parked? No seat lock if you get displaced. That doesn’t make any sense.
Plus, look at last June bid. Group 2 captain dropped 400.
Why would you jump off an airplane 2 months before it’s going to be parked? No seat lock if you get displaced. That doesn’t make any sense.
Plus, look at last June bid. Group 2 captain dropped 400.
Once the 80 gets parked it could be a little stagnant for a few bids. I.e look at ORD with the MD80 then 767 then STL closure then 777 finally biting it. This bid might finally see some movement there but when you start retiring planes out of a base it’s a wild guess. Some may bid over now before those 80s park let alone 767 eventual closure in dfw too.
12-21-2018, 04:43 PM
#47
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I could see a lot of guys getting group 4 FO in DFW on this bid, flying it for the summer, then getting displaced out in the fall when the -80 guys get their displacement bid. Some of those guys will probably get a few months off waiting for training.
12-21-2018, 06:37 PM
#48
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Originally Posted by viper548
I could see a lot of guys getting group 4 FO in DFW on this bid, flying it for the summer, then getting displaced out in the fall when the -80 guys get their displacement bid. Some of those guys will probably get a few months off waiting for training.
12-21-2018, 06:44 PM
#49
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Originally Posted by Surprise
Maybe, but what is AA’s angle? Is it cheaper to run fat on Group IV FOs or spend the money to retrain all the junior guys on something else?
That's a good question. I don't think there is an economical way to take 26 planes off line at once. If I were making the decisions I'd wind them down instead of having 350 pilots needing training all at once.
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