When did you hear this will come into play?

That's really surprising as it was designed for longer routes. Is there something special about New Zealand that makes it unsuitable? I really don't know much about our international operations.

It’s not weight, it’s volume....the 787 can’t carry nearly the freight that the 777 can

Well unless the guys wife is riding inside a box I'm not sure how that is relevant to her having to make alternative plans.

Sure but you are not counting all the group 3 aircraft that have already been parked since the merger. How many 767's and 757's have been parked and replaced with 321's? If you count the historical total group 3+4 aircraft of the combined US Airways and AA fleets at the merger I believe there is a significant drop. But total group 4 has increased. Win some lose some.

Our overall concern should be total jobs and profitability, not what type we have on property. IMO.

I vehemently disagree with that but it’s ok to have differing opinions. The whole point of scope is defining which aircraft need to be flown by mainline. My biggest concern is that 10 years from now our massive armada of narrowbody aircraft will be feeding the 777/380/350 fleets of QANTAS, BA, China Southern and LATAM.

It would be nice if APA spent some time and energy worrying about scope on the widebody side as well. Our JBV language is lacking in regards to dividing international growth flying.

By the way you shouldn’t be worrying about profitability. Parker gets $70 million for worrying about profitability. We should be worried about meeting and/or exceeding industry standard work rules and compensation.

Most guys have your opinion. They don't care about AA's profitability at all and their efforts at work show it. And they wonder why we aren't paid as well as Delta or United, or even SWA.

I don't care what I fly. If long haul loses money I want our JV partners to lose the money, not us. Wanting to fly big airplanes is just a form of SJS.

The more money the company makes the more we can be paid. If the company doesn't make money, over a long enough time period, we will cease to get paid at all.

A lot of JV stuff is compromise. The other countries want their share of the flying as well.

bingo, seems like common sense 101

Nonrevs get bumped for cargo. It’s an issue at United as well.

I think the rumor was SYD back to the 777.