First / Second year pay...
 

Can someone explain the breakdown of pay year 1 throughout training and then on reserve?

How much did you make on a month-to-month basis and how much did you gross year 1? Year 2? Is it possible to credit 100 hours /month year 1 and 2 with the soft pay at American?

Everybody makes 91/hour first year. 76 for short call, 73 hours pay for long call. 100 is possible depending on your equipment, you will have to work for it though. On reserve, the only way for extra money is OG or premium, which go in seniority order. Line holders have more options and freedoms.


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Thanks for the reply. I’m making decent money right now at my WO. Trying to plan for making the leap (financially) when the time comes. First year will be a significant pay cut and I’m hoping we can make it work without much disruption to the finances. I don’t mind working (especially if it’s just a year on first year pay / reserve) but I’m just trying to figure out how much pilots are realistically bringing home their 1st and 2nd years.

How many years will you have at AA when you flow? Do that math out to see if staying is better or taking the pay cut to come over will be worth it.

Oh... A lot. Leaving my regional for AA isn’t even a question. We’re just trying to plan accordingly and I’ve had a difficult time getting some real-world figures from guys on 1st/2nd year. My plan (as of right now) is for me to work 20 years. That would allow me to retire between 55-60 and not have to work until I’m 65. Hopefully anyway, we all know how life has a tendency to laugh at plans.

The worst paychecks will be the first 3 while you're still in training. AA pays a month late, looking back at what you did the previous month. Then gives you an advance. It's weird and complicated..not sure how PSA does it but it was completely different than how Envoy did.

Long story short, paycheck #1 is $3300 gross. #2 is $700, and #3 is half of $3300, so $1700 or something. Then after that you'll be getting normal paychecks. But those first 3 are killers. Plan accordingly.

Da Fuq??????

It's stupid and designed to confuse you. Easier to not pay you correctly. I found 8 hours they didn't bother to pay me in May. That is $1600.

I will say the pay comp folks are pretty good to talk to.

If you survived as a regional FO you can survive at $80k your first year.

Leaving my regional for US despite the $65,000 pay cut was the best thing I ever did. You can always make money, this job buys you quality of life and time off. Plus the pay is decent finally.

Speaking of pay questions I recently started paying attention to my HI1. 3 trios this month show less than original trip credit. As in we were re scheduled and it shows 1024 vs 10:30 or 13:46 vs 14:16. Both 2 day trips that had been modified by scheduling. If I hadn’t noticed that I wonder if they would have paid. I bet AA is making millions routinely shorting pilots.